Eh? I did and "33,510,321,638,291,127,876,934,862.75 tons" for example doesn't look very condensed. There's another figure for mass that's about as long. You could even do without the many decimals in most cases.Mike DiCenso wrote:I did. Read carefully, please.Mr. Oragahn wrote:May you condense your numbers a bit please, with a more scientific nomenclature?
I understand the will to show accuracy, but the other form wouldn't hurt either.
At least provide a condensed version along the ones with full decimals.
In "The Masterpiece Society", the E-D moved a mountain-sized stellar core fragment with a density of explicitly stated density of 10e14 tons per m^3.
Dang, another day in Star Trek nonsense. :)
Especially since it's the same episode wherein Geordi states:
We have a matter-antimatter warp reaction system, the most powerful in the Starfleet. Normally, it kicks plasma up into the terawatt range. Why?
So for this episode to be internally consistent, and to avoid cherry picking, we need to find something that fits with a power core that can provide terawatts of power.
Even if we applied a mass reduction like in Déjà Q, with a factor of a million to a billion (depends on the calculated size and mass of the Déjà Q moon), we can reduce that mass so the KE is reduced by that much, from 1.676 e22 to 1.676e19 joules.
Nothing like that is indicated in the episode aside from using "warp power", though.
Let's assume that it's been integrated to the ship's system in case of another of those maneuvers. After all, Déjà Q took place well before Masterpice Society. It would be silly not to replicated this trick.
Then, we may claim an entirely different acceleration, something on the order of a truly ridiculous drift. Why? They couldn't move the thing an inch even with their updated system and "three hundred twenty percent over standard".
Then life support was largely cut (although not by much) and that magically allowed them to "win". Yeah, who uses mutli-gigataton levels of energy on life support eh?
How silly. Anyway.
At 400% above standard, they finally get to move the fragment. They altered the angle by 1.2° over, what? dozens of seconds? Perhaps a short minute at best? Don't know, perhaps a camera cut may have let a full minute slip by.
That's about how long they applied some centripetal force to the stellar core, over 1.2°, with the E-D being the axis of rotation and the point of contact being the barycenter of the stellar core.
Did someone do the maths on that one? I can't find the page for those calcs on JMS' site.
Imho, there are two reasons to quibble about. First because it requires stupid amounts of energy, and no one can take it seriously. Secondly, because in the same episode, a power figure is given for the ship.Nothing to quibble about, even JMS can't dispute it since he himself went into the episode in detail for his site. Originally Data gives the density in billions of kg per cubic centimeter.
-Mike