"Freedom" dropped from WTC

For any and all other discussion, i.e., not relating to Star Wars or Star Trek or standards of evidence. A reminder: Don't spam, don't flame, and stay reasonable.

What should it be called

Freedom Tower
3
25%
1 World Trade Center
3
25%
Who cares?
6
50%
 
Total votes: 12

Cocytus
Jedi Knight
Posts: 435
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:04 am

"Freedom" dropped from WTC

Post by Cocytus » Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:10 pm

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the World Trade Center site, has dropped the name "Freedom Tower" from the site's tallest building, opting instead to call it simply "One World Trade Center."

The decision has drawn criticism from former governor George Pataki, who initially coined the appelation, and mayor Michael Bloomberg. In addition, Brooklyn senator Marty Golden is submitting legistaltion to Albany to make the name "Freedom Tower" permanent.

The only tenant signed so far to 1WTC is Vantone, a Chinese real estate corporation with ties to the Communist government. The PA denies any correlation with the name change.

At this point, I'm just anxious to see it built. But obviously, lots of people are invested in the idea of the new tower being the "Freedom Tower." I personally was more invested in it being the world's tallest, but Burj Dubai killed that idea right quick (along with about 10 other buildings). In the end, people will call it whatever they want to, though I'm happier with it just being the World Trade Center. "Freedom Tower" always sounded too political for me (and personally, I'm sick-and-goddamned tired of being treated to the idiotic strawman "you hate freedom" every time I disagree with a conservative). In summation, call it what you want PANYNJ, just be sure you get it built.

User avatar
Feldercarb
Padawan
Posts: 30
Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:06 pm

Post by Feldercarb » Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:58 pm

"Freedom Tower" was a pretty silly name IMO, the US went a little freedom happy after 9/11, naming things that had no connection to it "freedom". It always sounded like a superheros lair to me, like the Justice League or something.

I voted "who cares" simply because my preferred option, just renaming it "World Trade Center" wasn't there.

User avatar
Praeothmin
Jedi Master
Posts: 3920
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:24 pm
Location: Quebec City

Post by Praeothmin » Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:04 pm

the US went a little freedom happy after 9/11, naming things that had no connection to it "freedom".
All the while reigning in the freedom of their own citizens under the "Patriot Act"...

User avatar
Mr. Oragahn
Admiral
Posts: 6865
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:58 am
Location: Paradise Mountain

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:09 pm

The Tower of Ashagdur, or Erectile Ironstick of Ground Zero.

ILikeDeathNote
Jedi Knight
Posts: 430
Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:31 am

Re: "Freedom" dropped from WTC

Post by ILikeDeathNote » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:51 pm

Cocytus wrote: The decision has drawn criticism from former governor George Pataki, who initially coined the appelation, and mayor Michael Bloomberg.
Both of whom are morons. (personal opinion as opposed to verifiable fact, mind you)
The only tenant signed so far to 1WTC is Vantone, a Chinese real estate corporation with ties to the Communist government. The PA denies any correlation with the name change.
Ugh, China. I wish they would just go away sometimes.
Feldercarb wrote:"Freedom Tower" was a pretty silly name IMO, the US went a little freedom happy after 9/11, naming things that had no connection to it "freedom". It always sounded like a superheros lair to me, like the Justice League or something.
If you don't mind me saying, it was a side effect of the extreme jingoism that had swept our nation, the likes the world hadn't seen since at least WWII if not WWI.

Jingoism =/= Freedom or Freedom-loving

Narsil
Jedi Knight
Posts: 332
Joined: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:59 am

Post by Narsil » Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:57 pm

Feldercarb wrote:"Freedom Tower" was a pretty silly name IMO, the US went a little freedom happy after 9/11, naming things that had no connection to it "freedom". It always sounded like a superheros lair to me, like the Justice League or something.
QUICKLY, ROBIN! TO THE FREEDOM TOWER!

*cue superhero television theme*

PunkMaister
Jedi Knight
Posts: 622
Joined: Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:25 am
Location: Ponce, P.R
Contact:

Post by PunkMaister » Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:07 pm

Mr. Oragahn wrote:The Tower of Ashagdur, or Erectile Ironstick of Ground Zero.
Since you consider us to be the land of Mordor that does not surprise me in the slightest. poissibly cannot wait for the day when they wipes us orcs all out right?

User avatar
Feldercarb
Padawan
Posts: 30
Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:06 pm

Post by Feldercarb » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:01 pm

PunkMaister wrote:
Since you consider us to be the land of Mordor that does not surprise me in the slightest. poissibly cannot wait for the day when they wipes us orcs all out right?
Has Mr. O actually stated that he hopes for the destruction of the US or is this just more exaggeration on your part?

PunkMaister
Jedi Knight
Posts: 622
Joined: Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:25 am
Location: Ponce, P.R
Contact:

Post by PunkMaister » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:03 pm

Feldercarb wrote:
PunkMaister wrote:
Since you consider us to be the land of Mordor that does not surprise me in the slightest. poissibly cannot wait for the day when they wipes us orcs all out right?
Has Mr. O actually stated that he hopes for the destruction of the US or is this just more exaggeration on your part?
Hey exaggeration seems to be the name of the business around here so what the hell...

User avatar
Feldercarb
Padawan
Posts: 30
Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:06 pm

Post by Feldercarb » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:14 pm

PunkMaister wrote:
Hey exaggeration seems to be the name of the business around here so what the hell...
Right...

Well perhaps if conservatives want to be taken a little more seriously on the internet then they should cut down on the exaggeration (mental disorders lol) and the tendency to make ridiculous claims about their opposition.

PunkMaister
Jedi Knight
Posts: 622
Joined: Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:25 am
Location: Ponce, P.R
Contact:

Post by PunkMaister » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:30 pm

Feldercarb wrote:
PunkMaister wrote:
Hey exaggeration seems to be the name of the business around here so what the hell...
Right...

Well perhaps if conservatives want to be taken a little more seriously on the internet then they should cut down on the exaggeration (mental disorders lol) and the tendency to make ridiculous claims about their opposition.
And thus the pot call the kettle black...

User avatar
Feldercarb
Padawan
Posts: 30
Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:06 pm

Post by Feldercarb » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:45 pm

PunkMaister wrote: And thus the pot call the kettle black...
Of course what I said can't be applied to the other side right? Even though we are specifically talking about conservatives in this thread and therefore liberal behavior would be a tangent.

PunkMaister
Jedi Knight
Posts: 622
Joined: Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:25 am
Location: Ponce, P.R
Contact:

Post by PunkMaister » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:48 pm

Feldercarb wrote:
PunkMaister wrote: And thus the pot call the kettle black...
Of course what I said can't be applied to the other side right? Even though we are specifically talking about conservatives in this thread and therefore liberal behavior would be a tangent.
We are? Funny I thought this thread was about the possible name of the building that is to replace the twin towers ah, yes it's a thread about the hated US my bad, go on...

User avatar
Feldercarb
Padawan
Posts: 30
Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:06 pm

Post by Feldercarb » Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:24 pm

PunkMaister wrote:
We are? Funny I thought this thread was about the possible name of the building that is to replace the twin towers ah, yes it's a thread about the hated US my bad, go on...
We were, now we're talking about conservatives. But please continue to ignore the points addressed to you, it's far more entertaining.

Mike DiCenso
Security Officer
Posts: 5839
Joined: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:49 pm

Post by Mike DiCenso » Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:58 pm

I don't see any reason why both Freedom and One World Trade Center can't be used for the new tower.
-Mike

Post Reply