Star wars and star trek tech combined?

[Kor_Dahar_Master]

But that in itself is inefficent. The borg can either:

A: Destroy the ship, and the mission is accomplished, without any possibility of failure.
B: Save the ship, have a extra primitive ship design, and increase their chances of failure significantly.

I'd rather say that the borg at the time were having problems with their sensors because of traveling through time. Of course why didn't they just use a huge high yield blast. I dunno. I guess it all comes down to, if they did.............it'd be a boring movie.

From the Borgs perspective as they arrive point A can be accomplished at any time before or even just after the launch so why waste useful/useable tech?.

Considering the initial circumstances when they arrived i find no compelling argument why they would need to nuke the shit out of the area rather than just pacifying the population around it and begining assimilation. Shit they could have even allowed FC to take place but with Borg doing the driving of the Pheonix and then assimilated the vulcan ship and crew when it arrived.

[User1442]

But that in itself is inefficent. The borg can either:

A: Destroy the ship, and the mission is accomplished, without any possibility of failure.
B: Save the ship, have a extra primitive ship design, and increase their chances of failure significantly.

I'd rather say that the borg at the time were having problems with their sensors because of traveling through time. Of course why didn't they just use a huge high yield blast. I dunno. I guess it all comes down to, if they did.............it'd be a boring movie.

From the Borgs perspective as they arrive point A can be accomplished at any time before or even just after the launch so why waste useful/useable tech?.

Considering the initial circumstances when they arrived i find no compelling argument why they would need to nuke the shit out of the area rather than just pacifying the population around it and begining assimilation. Shit they could have even allowed FC to take place but with Borg doing the driving of the Pheonix and then assimilated the vulcan ship and crew when it arrived.

It seems to me like your arguments are making the borg sound more and more retarded.

[Kor_Dahar_Master]

It seems to me like your arguments are making the borg sound more and more retarded.

So nuking the entire site and destroying usable tech is more retarded than just killing the people living around the camp and using it?.

Have you even watched a Borg episode because one of those options is exactly their style and one is not.

[User1442]

It seems to me like your arguments are making the borg sound more and more retarded.

So nuking the entire site and destroying usable tech is more retarded than just killing the people living around the camp and using it?.

Have you even watched a Borg episode because one of those options is exactly their style and one is not.

Don't get me wrong, im not saying that im right. Im simply saying that if your right, the borg and f'ing retarded. Unstoppable force my ass, lol.

[Admiral Breetai]

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Don't get me wrong, im not saying that im right. Im simply saying that if your right, the borg and f'ing retarded. Unstoppable force my ass, lol.

i would of though that obvious by now

no other race suffers from PIS and CIS like the borg do

[Lucky]

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Don't get me wrong, im not saying that im right. Im simply saying that if your right, the borg and f'ing retarded. Unstoppable force my ass, lol.

i would of though that obvious by now

no other race suffers from PIS and CIS like the borg do

The Borg tend to make more sense if you look at them as a little kid burning ants with a magnifying glass, and the UFP is the ants that caught the kids eye.

[User1442]

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Don't get me wrong, im not saying that im right. Im simply saying that if your right, the borg and f'ing retarded. Unstoppable force my ass, lol.

i would of though that obvious by now

no other race suffers from PIS and CIS like the borg do

The Borg tend to make more sense if you look at them as a little kid burning ants with a magnifying glass, and the UFP is the ants that caught the kids eye.

Lol, no. They make more sense if you just assume they assimilated a bunch of people with down syndrome.

[Lucky]

Lol, no. They make more sense if you just assume they assimilated a bunch of people with down syndrome.

I really don't think so given the closest races to what you suggest are canonly ignored by the Borg.

Like it's been stated the UFP is not a high priority to the Borg, and besides when the Borg wants to it's drones can move very fast as in faster then Data.

[Who is like God arbour]

One characteristic of the Borg is that they try to be efficient. They do not use excessive violence or power. They ignore intruders in their ships as long as they are not regarded as a threat. If that changes, they send one drone and when this drone is killed, they send another drone and another and another ... although they have hundred thousands of drones in a cube they could send all at once. It is the same with their shields. Instead of having all drones have their shields always adapted to all possible threats, they adapt their shields only to the present threat. It is the same with their weapons. These are not brute force weapons but are adapted to be as efficient against an enemy as possible and, if possible, to circumvent the enemy's shields.

Considering that, it makes sense that, if the Borg only wanted to prevent or or at least postpone the start of the Phoenix, that they wouldn't use more power than is enough to achieve exactly that.

To devastate the whole area is not efficient.

And the shots they fired off were already enough to damage the Phoenix. Without the help of the crew of the Enterprise, it would have been impossible to repair the Phoenix in time.

But when the Borg started to fire, they didn't know that the Enterprise has followed them into the past and that their ship will be destroyed and the crew of the Enterprise will help to repair the already damaged Phoenix. Assuming that they are alone there, they probably thought that they could fire a few more shots and be sure to increase the damage on the Phoenix if necessary.

I can not see, how that is in any way retarded.

The problem is, that we all know what happened. But if we want to say that the Borg have made a mistake, we have to consider what the Borg knew then and if with that knowledge, their choice was wrong because another would have been better.

Who says that if he were the Borg then and would have devastated the whole area at once, would have made a bad choice because in that moment there was no need to use such an excessive force.

[Admiral Breetai]

The Borg tend to make more sense if you look at them as a little kid burning ants with a magnifying glass, and the UFP is the ants that caught the kids eye.

considering that ant had a virus they could of uploaded that would of wiped out your whole race but held back due to morals

and in another situation they either did succeed or massively crippled you beyond the capacity to be a threat for awhile and likely condemned you to retribution from your enemies

yeah they act dumb

[Lucky]

The Borg tend to make more sense if you look at them as a little kid burning ants with a magnifying glass, and the UFP is the ants that caught the kids eye.

considering that ant had a virus they could of uploaded that would of wiped out your whole race but held back due to morals

and in another situation they either did succeed or massively crippled you beyond the capacity to be a threat for awhile and likely condemned you to retribution from your enemies

yeah they act dumb

Hence why I said kid. The Borg thought that there was no way these primitive little weaklings could actually hurt it.

[Admiral Breetai]

Hence why I said kid. The Borg thought that there was no way these primitive little weaklings could actually hurt it.

i guess to be fair to the borg they are old and they're methods worked till they ran into humanity but yeah your child analogy works well enough

[Lucky]

Hence why I said kid. The Borg thought that there was no way these primitive little weaklings could actually hurt it.

i guess to be fair to the borg they are old and they're methods worked till they ran into humanity but yeah your child analogy works well enough

Pretty much, but the Borg never really cared about the UFP.

[Picard]

They cared about Earth... and as Captain Janeway stated, Borg assimilate, UFP researchs. Borg think conventionally. They are unprepared for anything that does not follow rules of symmetrical warfare, same reason why US could not win in Vietnam or why it can't hope to win in Iraq or Afghanistan. Or why Soviets got crushed in Afghanistan (witl US helping Talibans, that is). Borg simply don't know how to respond, beacouse UFP turned their main advantage (hive mind) against them. One Cube, tactically, was enough to assimilate Earth in first encounter, and probably so in second. But Borg got stomped by some factors they did not foresee... factors they could not foresee, beacouse they think conventially, and concentrate only on achieveng current goal.

[Admiral Breetai]

makes me wonder if the Feds or the Dominion could exterminate the Borg if they divert enough resources to finding a way to do so

providing Admiral Janeway didn't sound the death knell that is