Anything goes, star trek vs star wars.

[Khas]

This is "Anything Goes". And for ST's side, that would include a Preserver artifact that once shrunk a planet down to the size of a grapefruit.

[User1468]

Actually, I'm excluding the torp spheres, due to the fact that they are a counter for a threat that ST doesnt' have: planetary shields. Torp Spheres are designed to pound a shield sector with Cap Ship torpedoes until it fails, then use percision TL blasts to annihilate the generator.

Which is false.
ST has planetary shields, as of TOS "Whom Gods Destroy", Soran's smaller shield in ST :GEN, Ty'Gykor's shielded command center in DS9, and other examples...
They are in fact similar to TESB's Hoth shield, or the Geonosian shield in TCW when the Republic tries to destroy the droid factory...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I never saw the Federation deploy a shield around an entire planet. In the case of theater shields, it's usually more effective to land an army outside the shield and march in.

[Khas]

While I never actually saw a full planetary shield used in ST, I know that they were mentioned in "Year of Hell", when Chakotay told Annorax that several races could use temporal shields to protect their homeworlds from the Krenim Timeship's weapon, which worked by erasing things from history.

[User1468]

While I never actually saw a full planetary shield used in ST, I know that they were mentioned in "Year of Hell", when Chakotay told Annorax that several races could use temporal shields to protect their homeworlds from the Krenim Timeship's weapon, which worked by erasing things from history.

IIRC, the temporal shields only rendered the planets immune to the effects of the timeship weapon, not all weapons.

[Khas]

True, but the fact remains that they could stretch a shield all the way around a planet.

[User1468]

TNG showed that stretching a shield away from it's generator weakens the shield. I'm going to say that SW planetary shields are stronger, but I'll cede the possibility of Fed planet shields, albeit relatively weak ones.

[sonofccn]

TNG showed that stretching a shield away from it's generator weakens the shield. I'm going to say that SW planetary shields are stronger, but I'll cede the possibility of Fed planet shields, albeit relatively weak ones.

That was a single starshp extending its shields like five thousand meters to protect a fleeing shuttle/scout from enemy fire. The fact that it could extend them at all and not have instantly go out like a candle speak volumes.

On the other hand when we observed a plantary shield in action in Whom Gods Destroy at its weakest point it could take everything a Connie could dish out without failing. There is nothing weak about them.

[User1468]

TNG showed that stretching a shield away from it's generator weakens the shield. I'm going to say that SW planetary shields are stronger, but I'll cede the possibility of Fed planet shields, albeit relatively weak ones.

That was a single starshp extending its shields like five thousand meters to protect a fleeing shuttle/scout from enemy fire. The fact that it could extend them at all and not have instantly go out like a candle speak volumes.

On the other hand when we observed a plantary shield in action in Whom Gods Destroy at its weakest point it could take everything a Connie could dish out without failing. There is nothing weak about them.

The key word was "relatively", as in SW planetary shields are stronger. also, wasn't Whom Gods Destroy the episode with Apollo?

[sonofccn]

The key word was "relatively", as in SW planetary shields are stronger.

You spoke of it after remarking on the shield weaking/extension clearly you felt it had some connection or bearing. Second if you wish to claim SW planetary shields are stronger you will need to provide evidence to support this.

also, wasn't Whom Gods Destroy the episode with Apollo?

No that was who mourns for adonais. If you truly wish I can dig up the revelent transcripts and youtube clip.

[Lucky]

TNG showed that stretching a shield away from it's generator weakens the shield. I'm going to say that SW planetary shields are stronger, but I'll cede the possibility of Fed planet shields, albeit relatively weak ones.

That was a single starshp extending its shields like five thousand meters to protect a fleeing shuttle/scout from enemy fire. The fact that it could extend them at all and not have instantly go out like a candle speak volumes.

On the other hand when we observed a plantary shield in action in Whom Gods Destroy at its weakest point it could take everything a Connie could dish out without failing. There is nothing weak about them.

The key word was "relatively", as in SW planetary shields are stronger. also, wasn't Whom Gods Destroy the episode with Apollo?

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Whom_Gods_ ... _(episode)

A connie could bring down the shields by brute force, but they would have killed everything on the planet including the people they wanted alive on the opposite side of the planet in somewhat fortified building.

[User1442]

Do remember that the federation only has weapons that IT would have. If the klingons have a reality shift bomb, then no dice.

[Khas]

Then that would mean that the Federation also gets the Temporal Research Facility from Armada 2, which froze time for enemy ships in the area for a brief time, allowing Federation ships to reek havoc on them. The Empire wouldn't know what hit it.

[User1468]

If max yields for everything, and ALL authorwank, then i will say that the Federation and the Empire would annihilate the fabric of the universe.

[StarWarsStarTrek]

Does Star Wars get E38 joule Death Stars?

[Nowhereman10]

While I never actually saw a full planetary shield used in ST, I know that they were mentioned in "Year of Hell", when Chakotay told Annorax that several races could use temporal shields to protect their homeworlds from the Krenim Timeship's weapon, which worked by erasing things from history.

Um, in TOS' "Whom Gods Destroy", that is precisely what we see. If there were gaps in the Elba II shield, there would have been no reason whatsoever for the Enterprise to go around to the opposite side of the planet and bombard the shield's weakest point in hopes of opening up a hole for a shuttle with a security team to fly, or beam down through.