Veritable torpedo yields

[Lucky]

Since Star Trek torpedos have variable yields in canon shouldn't the largest recorded yield not be the assumed to be correct yield for torpedos, and anything below that be assumed to be a lower then maximum torpedo?

[Who is like God arbour]

No.

As they are usually not saying if they are using a maximum yield, you can only conclude on this from the situation. Is it a situation in which it would only makes sense to use a maximum yield or not?

But if there are two or more situations in which they would use a maximum yield and the yields are different, than you have contradicting values.

Why should the higher maximum yield be preferred to the lower maximum yield?

If you can't find another explanation, the only explanation would be that, although it wouldn't make sense to not use the maximum yield in a situation, they haven't used it. But that amounts to an appeal of stupidity.

[Lucky]

No.

As they are usually not saying if they are using a maximum yield, you can only conclude on this from the situation. Is it a situation in which it would only makes sense to use a maximum yield or not?

But if there are two or more situations in which they would use a maximum yield and the yields are different, than you have contradicting values.

Why should the higher maximum yield be preferred to the lower maximum yield?

If you can't find another explanation, the only explanation would be that, although it wouldn't make sense to not use the maximum yield in a situation, they haven't used it. But that amounts to an appeal of stupidity.

That makes sense.
Perhaps I asked the wrong question.

What are the highest calculable instances in which photon torpedos are used? From that we should be able to get a reasonable idea of a low end.

Please don't just give me links to the main site. I find it difficult to navigate.

[Picard]

Well, depends on series. It is logical that Voyager-era torpedoes should have higher yield than TNG-era ones. My guess would be that TNG-era torpedoes are around 550 megatons, maximum (I analyzed "Pegasus" and "Skin of Evil" so far. First gave 550 megatons low end but given some things I did I would say that in this case low end is more reasonable than high end. Second gave 507 megatons. I was using Wong's calculators for these figures).

[Praeothmin]

Well, depends on series. It is logical that Voyager-era torpedoes should have higher yield than TNG-era ones. My guess would be that TNG-era torpedoes are around 550 megatons, maximum (I analyzed "Pegasus" and "Skin of Evil" so far. First gave 550 megatons low end but given some things I did I would say that in this case low end is more reasonable than high end. Second gave 507 megatons. I was using Wong's calculators for these figures).

How did you get 550 MT as a low end for Pegasus?

[Mith]

Well, depends on series. It is logical that Voyager-era torpedoes should have higher yield than TNG-era ones. My guess would be that TNG-era torpedoes are around 550 megatons, maximum (I analyzed "Pegasus" and "Skin of Evil" so far. First gave 550 megatons low end but given some things I did I would say that in this case low end is more reasonable than high end. Second gave 507 megatons. I was using Wong's calculators for these figures).

How did you get 550 MT as a low end for Pegasus?

I hope he means the entire torpedo loadout...otherwise this is just nonsensical.

Personally, I go with a mixture of manuels and TV canon. And that is, isoton means 1.48 megatons and given the 25 isoton yield stated in the series for Voyager, that's 62 megatons. Fits well with the rest of the canon I think in terms of what these ships can do.

However, torpedoes can be maxed out for 200 isotons, as per Scorpion, but it probably reduces their effectiveness somehow. That's still a 496 megaton bang though.

[Lucky]

Well, depends on series. It is logical that Voyager-era torpedoes should have higher yield than TNG-era ones. My guess would be that TNG-era torpedoes are around 550 megatons, maximum (I analyzed "Pegasus" and "Skin of Evil" so far. First gave 550 megatons low end but given some things I did I would say that in this case low end is more reasonable than high end. Second gave 507 megatons. I was using Wong's calculators for these figures).

I'm pretty sure TNG, DS9, and Voyager all take place about the same time.

[Mith]

Well, depends on series. It is logical that Voyager-era torpedoes should have higher yield than TNG-era ones. My guess would be that TNG-era torpedoes are around 550 megatons, maximum (I analyzed "Pegasus" and "Skin of Evil" so far. First gave 550 megatons low end but given some things I did I would say that in this case low end is more reasonable than high end. Second gave 507 megatons. I was using Wong's calculators for these figures).

I'm pretty sure TNG, DS9, and Voyager all take place about the same time.

Correct, but important changes happen between the two series. Not the least being the Borg and the Jem'Hadar.

[Lucky]

Well, depends on series. It is logical that Voyager-era torpedoes should have higher yield than TNG-era ones. My guess would be that TNG-era torpedoes are around 550 megatons, maximum (I analyzed "Pegasus" and "Skin of Evil" so far. First gave 550 megatons low end but given some things I did I would say that in this case low end is more reasonable than high end. Second gave 507 megatons. I was using Wong's calculators for these figures).

I'm pretty sure TNG, DS9, and Voyager all take place about the same time.

Correct, but important changes happen between the two series. Not the least being the Borg and the Jem'Hadar.

I was under the impression the time period over lapped?

[Picard]

Well, depends on series. It is logical that Voyager-era torpedoes should have higher yield than TNG-era ones. My guess would be that TNG-era torpedoes are around 550 megatons, maximum (I analyzed "Pegasus" and "Skin of Evil" so far. First gave 550 megatons low end but given some things I did I would say that in this case low end is more reasonable than high end. Second gave 507 megatons. I was using Wong's calculators for these figures).

How did you get 550 MT as a low end for Pegasus?

If you watch episode, you will see that they had to vaporize asteroid (in order to destroy Pegasus). By using Wong's calculator, and ignoring "cave" due to goal being destruction of "Pegasus" (and ST ships are generally harder to destroy than asteroids), we arrive at total energy required to be 130 to 254 gigatons. Using low end (asteroid was rocky) of 130 gigatons, and assuming 240 torpedoes fired (out of 250 that Galaxy class can carry) we arrive at 542 megatons per torpedo. And it is low end that it can't really get any lower, if we want to stay in line with canon (OK, we could lower it by taking cave into accaunt, but even then it would be around or above 500 megatons per torpedo). Plus we have "Skin of Evil" giving 500 megaton torpedoes (they were targeting shuttle o surface so I would say it was anti-ship torpedo too).

And Mith, can you explain me why you think 500 megaton torpedo would be nonsensical? Plus Manuals are not canon anymore, and even when they were, analysis of what happened on TV was always higher canon. Plus if you analyze "Rise", that torpedo can't really get any lower than 200 megatons. And they were targeting moving target.

EDIT: I might be wrong about "Rise".