The UFP vs. The Romulan Star Empire

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Re: The UFP vs. The Romulan Star Empire

Post by Mike DiCenso » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:02 am

KirkSkywalker wrote:
Mr. Oragahn wrote:
Mike DiCenso wrote:We may presume that Enterprise-E ment an alternate universe Romulan Empire where Romulus didn't get destroyed by a supernova.
-Mike
More like a wonkanova.
What's that, it explodes and candy-bars and golden tickets spray out?
I thought he ment that Oompa-Loompas dropped a trilithium bomb into the star to make it supernova.
-Mike

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Re: The UFP vs. The Romulan Star Empire

Post by KirkSkyWalker » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:29 pm

Mike DiCenso wrote:
KirkSkywalker wrote:
What's that, it explodes and candy-bars and golden tickets spray out?
I thought he ment that Oompa-Loompas dropped a trilithium bomb into the star to make it supernova.
-Mike
More like Chocolatium, which causes orbital decay.

(WTH would Ooompa-Loompas get trilithium?)

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Re: The UFP vs. The Romulan Star Empire

Post by Praeothmin » Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:10 pm

KirkSkywalker wrote:
Praeothmin wrote:Just finished watching "All good Things" in Enterprise, and in it, Riker specifically says that the Cloaking Device was the work of a secret group within Starfleet Security, and that building a Cloaking Device IS illegal.
Section 31 anyone? :)

This proves, beyond all doubts, that the Federation knew nothing of this Cloak, and that Picard was indeed acting correctly when he revealed the Cloak to the Romulans, and was not acting against Starfleet orders...
Sure, nor in "Insurrection."
(Double face-palm)
INS, where Admiral Dougherty clearly states that the Federation knew of the plan?
Good comparison...
Pegasus clearly establishes the cloak originated from a secret group, secret meaning no many people knew about it, and also that this group could not be reached by anyone...
Care to try again?

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Re: The UFP vs. The Romulan Star Empire

Post by Mike DiCenso » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:56 pm

More specifically, the plan the Federation council and Starfleet was aware of was not what was actually going on, and that is why Picard and the rest of the crew did what they did. The E-E as you may recall was trying to get to where they could comunicate that information to Starfleet and why they Son'a were desperately trying to stop them. So there are again special circumstances involved. Plus it's not like a certain Starfleet captain by the name of James T. Kirk or any of his crew never disobeyed orders before.
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Re: The UFP vs. The Romulan Star Empire

Post by KirkSkyWalker » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:17 am

Praeothmin wrote:
KirkSkywalker wrote:
Praeothmin wrote:Just finished watching "All good Things" in Enterprise, and in it, Riker specifically says that the Cloaking Device was the work of a secret group within Starfleet Security, and that building a Cloaking Device IS illegal.
Section 31 anyone? :)

This proves, beyond all doubts, that the Federation knew nothing of this Cloak, and that Picard was indeed acting correctly when he revealed the Cloak to the Romulans, and was not acting against Starfleet orders...
Sure, nor in "Insurrection."
(Double face-palm)
INS, where Admiral Dougherty clearly states that the Federation knew of the plan?
Good comparison...
Pegasus clearly establishes the cloak originated from a secret group, secret meaning no many people knew about it, and also that this group could not be reached by anyone...
Care to try again?
No thanks, I got it right the first time. This line about "secret meaning no many people knew about it, and also that this group could not be reached by anyone" is too laughable to believe the laughing-- technology doesn't work that way.

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Re: The UFP vs. The Romulan Star Empire

Post by Praeothmin » Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:33 pm

KirkSkywalker wrote: technology doesn't work that way.
Right, because anyone within the army has full knowledge of all the secret military experiments going on in robotics, stealth technology, radar improvements, and not just hearsay or basic information...
Gorvernments and militaries don't work that way...
No thanks, I got it right the first time.
Which you still haven't proven.
I, on the other hand, provided canon evidence to the contrary, so I guess you're still wrong...

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