The UFP and The Dominion Vs the GE

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Re: The UFP and The Dominion Vs the GE

Post by StarWarsStarTrek » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:44 pm

Praeothmin wrote:
But I am a Hypocrite
THANK YOU.

Now that you've admitted that you used a double standard for no apparent reason, why don't you go back and:

a) Apologize for accusing me of something that Breetai also does

or

b) Accuse Breetai and anybody else that doesn't follow OP canon fiat just like you did to me

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Re: The UFP and The Dominion Vs the GE

Post by Praeothmin » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:56 pm

No, because you are a troll, and you do ignore evidence which doesn't fit your view of SW, as shown many, many, many times by myself, Mr. O., Breetai and Mike (basically, anyone who debated you)... :)

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Re: The UFP and The Dominion Vs the GE

Post by StarWarsStarTrek » Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:59 pm

Praeothmin wrote:No, because you are a troll, and you do ignore evidence which doesn't fit your view of SW, as shown many, many, many times by myself, Mr. O., Breetai and Mike (basically, anyone who debated you)... :)
And I rebuted all of these points, and you ignored my post.

You: Claim A
Me: Rebuttal to Claim A
You: Rebuttal to my rebuttal by...restating claim A

Do you see the failure in your logic? "Because you are a troll" to requests for proof of that is not a rebuttal, nor is appealing to popularity of appealing to what has 'already been said'. I rebuted all of that.

In fact, one of the things you consistently fail to do is to defend Breetai's bad behavior that I have cited and posted numerous times. Mike mysteriously dropped out of the debate at that point too. Explain, in specific detail (and not with bullshit rhetoric about him being "more honest" than me) how you justify the various links I have cited.

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Re: The UFP and The Dominion Vs the GE

Post by Praeothmin » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:38 pm

StarWarsStarTrek wrote:Explain, in specific detail (and not with bullshit rhetoric about him being "more honest" than me) how you justify the various links I have cited.
Nope...
I do not owe you any explanation, since you never provide evidence when some is requested yourself...

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Post by Admiral Breetai » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:42 pm

I'm still waiting on canon evidence from the movies and Tv series and not some nonsense like the EU that validates the Imps being able to target those fast moving St ships much less trade blows with them fire power wise

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Re: The UFP and The Dominion Vs the GE

Post by StarWarsStarTrek » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:00 pm

Praeothmin wrote: Nope...
I do not owe you any explanation,
Because you have none. You cannot deny the fact that Breetai has done everything that you accuse me of and more, yet you have no problem with him doing so.

And this isn't about "owing" anyone an explanation. You still don't understand what determines the merit of one's argument. Your argument has no merit, and whether mine does or not doesn't affect your unrelated one.
since you never provide evidence when some is requested yourself...
The epitome of irony, as this statement itself has no evidence. It's like when Obi Wan said "only a sith deals in absolutes", not realizing that the statement itself is an absolute. Or Justin Bieber saying to never say never.

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Re: The UFP and The Dominion Vs the GE

Post by Praeothmin » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:58 pm

Or a Hypocrite like you calling me a hypocrite, I guess... :)

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Re: The UFP and The Dominion Vs the GE

Post by Mike DiCenso » Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:43 pm

Hey, tone it down, people. This is going a bit beyond stating an opinion about someone's behavior to being a borderline insult.
-Mike

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Re: The UFP and The Dominion Vs the GE

Post by Praeothmin » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:09 pm

To be honest, Mike, I believe I deserve a warning for the Hypocrite name-calling of SWST...
Just as he deserves one for calling me the same...

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Re: The UFP and The Dominion Vs the GE

Post by StarWarsStarTrek » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:37 pm

Praeothmin wrote:Or a Hypocrite like you calling me a hypocrite, I guess... :)
Why did you ignore the arguments of my rebuttal, and instead nitpicked a single word that you said. Accusing somebody of trolling is a serious accusation, and so far you are doing everything you can to avoid backing it up.
To be honest, Mike, I believe I deserve a warning for the Hypocrite name-calling of SWST...
Just as he deserves one for calling me the same...
Nice try, but you're using a classic tactic. You want us both to get warned, because I would get banned from it and you'd still have several lives. Hopefully, Mike or JMS doesn't fall for it.

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Post by Kor_Dahar_Master » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:40 pm

StarWarsStarTrek wrote:
Nice try, but you're using a classic tactic. You want us both to get warned, because I would get banned from it and you'd still have several lives. Hopefully, Mike or JMS doesn't fall for it.
It is not a tactic it is basic math, you have made more infractions than him so if this one adds up to meaning a ban for you then you should have been better behaved in the past.

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Re: The UFP and The Dominion Vs the GE

Post by StarWarsStarTrek » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:55 pm

Kor_Dahar_Master wrote:
It is not a tactic it is basic math, you have made more infractions than him so if this one adds up to meaning a ban for you then you should have been better behaved in the past.
So you're admitting that Praeothmin is not admitting that he should be warned for altruistic reasons, but because he wants to appeal to the golden mean fallacy to get us both warned, so that he could get off while I get banned.

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Re: The UFP and The Dominion Vs the GE

Post by Praeothmin » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:08 pm

No, I should be warned because I have insulted you, and you should be warned because you have insulted me...

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Re: The UFP and The Dominion Vs the GE

Post by Kor_Dahar_Master » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:35 pm

StarWarsStarTrek wrote:
So you're admitting that Praeothmin is not admitting that he should be warned for altruistic reasons, but because he wants to appeal to the golden mean fallacy to get us both warned, so that he could get off while I get banned.
No because of this:-


Praeothmin wrote:No, I should be warned because I have insulted you, and you should be warned because you have insulted me...
Get it?, got it?, GOOD!.

PS: it is not a golden mean fallacy it is basic math, you broke the rules more than he did so after tallying up infractions you get a ban and he does not. YOU would go fucking apeshit if the situation was reversed and his added upto a ban but did not get one and do not deny it.

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Re: The UFP and The Dominion Vs the GE

Post by StarWarsStarTrek » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:56 pm

Kor_Dahar_Master wrote: PS: it is not a golden mean fallacy it is basic math, you broke the rules more than he did so after tallying up infractions you get a ban and he does not. YOU would go fucking apeshit if the situation was reversed and his added upto a ban but did not get one and do not deny it.
That's not my point. He's giving the impression that his motive is being humble and admitting that he should get warned, but also admitting that I should get warned to appeal to golden mean. However, his motive is because he did basic math (as you pointlessly say), and did this to get me banned while claiming that it's "fair". It's true that basic math adds up to this (me getting banned and him getting off, as if a mod could get banned) and that's the entire point!

You act as though golden mean cannot go together with basic math. Basic math is how he formulated the golden mean plot, there's no contradiction.

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