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[Mr. Oragahn]

As I said, what really happened is that we missed each other. The Death Star entry stuck in my mind, probably because at the time Praeothmin posted it, we were active over several threads, including the one wherein he posted it. It is so visible that in the Death Star output thread, when I literally posted a screen capture of the Death Star entry, you didn't say hey, that's not the one I'm talking about.
I mean, being so stuck into a discussion that one could miss which entry we were really talking about because we didn't pay enough attention over the name of said entry is something. For one, I noticed you said Superlaser twice over a total of several pages, and I said Death Star, and somehow we were not seeing how we were both wrong. But when I posted the entire screen cap of the Death Star entry, it's really a stretch that you wouldn't have realized, after reading it, that this wasn't the entry you were pointing at. And yet for some reason, you didn't.
I had not noticed that you were speaking of the Superlaser one. But by the time of me posting the screen cap, which you saw, you should have then realized that I wasn't talking of the same entry.
Which has me wonder if you ever bothered to read the evidence.
What is even more damning is that this is another proof of you ignoring plain evidence. The Death Star entry was quoted by Praeothmin around the 15th of May, and sealed the question of what hypermatter was, as far as the databank was concerned.

I'm also curious about your accusation of forgery. I recall accusing you of cherry picking your evidence from the databank's article, which is different. Since we had two different articles in mind, we should both apologize. But there's no excuse for what you've been doing thus far in ignoring the facts from the Death Star entry.

1. I don't give a crap if so-and-so posted it somewhere on some day. I have no obligation nor the ability to go and search for every last link everybody gives me.

2. Your inability to say "I'm sorry" instead of going on a silly blame game proves my point.

Think what you want, I don't care anymore. As far as I'm concerned, you don't even exist.

[Mike DiCenso]

1. I don't give a crap if so-and-so posted it somewhere on some day. I have no obligation nor the ability to go and search for every last link everybody gives me.

And that is why you fail.
-Mike

[StarWarsStarTrek]

Think what you want, I don't care anymore. As far as I'm concerned, you don't even exist.

Because your ability to think rationally clearly isn't one of your strong points. You continue to think that I have an obligation to answer to every single one of your points or that of anybody else, while giving stupid "respond in 24 hours!" ultimatums, as if I have the time to follow your silly and contrived deeadlines.

Furthermore, you continue to use black and white fallacies, outright dismissing sources that disagree with yours (even though both sources have equal canon status) instead of rationalizing them, (you say that hypermatter = fusion when the DS explicitly contradicts this).




Mike, the link to the original incident was in the freaking link I gave you. To clarify, the link was to an earlier page on this thread, where at the bottom of the thread I provided a list of quotes showing Breetai's dishonest behavior, and that post HAD A LINK TO THE ORIGINAL INCIDENT. At this point, I am honestly wondering whether or not you actually read my complaint, or, if you did, how much effort you put into actually analyzing it.

[Mike DiCenso]

Chill it, both of you.

Mr. Oragahn gets a warning for foul language and insults directed at StarWarsStarTrek in the The 1.5 megaton myth thread.
-Mike

[Admiral Breetai]

that thread was not an instance of me being dishonest at all over two forums we debated the same thing and it resulted in you throwing a pro sidious tempertantrum

what that is is an example of me very harshly saying I refuse to play your game I was penalized for that in other threads when I made it even more clear.

Simply put your pathetic little obsession over me is derailing any chance you have of arguing your case and you need to stop because it's getting kind of disturbing I'm genuinely concerned your going to start showing unstable obsessive cyberstalker like behavior

[Admiral Breetai]

observe the recent bait thread this man perpetrated

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... =11&t=1994

[Mike DiCenso]

StarWarsStarTrek is given a 5th warning for an insult directed at Praeothmin in the "The Death Star's power output confirmed!" thread.

This earns a 2-day ban since it comes less than a day after SWST's previous 1-day ban.
-Mike

[Praeothmin]

Think what you want, I don't care anymore. As far as I'm concerned, you don't even exist.

Furthermore, you continue to use black and white fallacies, outright dismissing sources that disagree with yours (even though both sources have equal canon status) instead of rationalizing them, (you say that hypermatter = fusion when the DS explicitly contradicts this).

No, you are the one in the habit of ignoring or dismissing evidence when it goes contrary to what you believe...
The DS does not contradict it, and if it does, you've failed to provide any evidence to why it would...
You still ignore the ANG quote, the DS database, the effects of a 1/3 power shot in the DS novel, the actual definition of main sequence stars and how much power they actually have, the two explosions clearly seen onscreen in ANH when Alderaan gets destroyed, etc, etc, etc...

[Admiral Breetai]

No, you are the one in the habit of ignoring or dismissing evidence when it goes contrary to what you believe...
The DS does not contradict it, and if it does, you've failed to provide any evidence to why it would...
You still ignore the ANG quote, the DS database, the effects of a 1/3 power shot in the DS novel, the actual definition of main sequence stars and how much power they actually have, the two explosions clearly seen onscreen in ANH when Alderaan gets destroyed, etc, etc, etc...

I think he's projecting

[StarWarsStarTrek]

No, you are the one in the habit of ignoring or dismissing evidence when it goes contrary to what you believe...

No I don't. Prove this.

The DS does not contradict it, and if it does, you've failed to provide any evidence to why it would...

Because Mr. O says that hypermatter = fusion. Hypermatter is described in DS as tachyonic particles being confined to real space, somehow generating energy exceeding the potential of M/AM conversion. Fusion does not match the above description at all. Therefore, Mr. O's hypothesis of hypermatter = fusion is false.

You still ignore the ANG quote,

Because the quote is too vague, and there is nothing in it stating that it's a chain reaction (nor is there any reason why a farmboy would know of how the DS works)

the DS database,

I already have rationalized it. Mr. O thinks that he should outright toss out explicit descriptions in the DS for it.

the effects of a 1/3 power shot in the DS novel,

Done.

the actual definition of main sequence stars and how much power they actually have,

Done.

the two explosions clearly seen onscreen in ANH when Alderaan gets destroyed, etc, etc, etc...

Done.

[mojo]

HAHA! ah, swst, you are a barrel of laughs. BUT- i would like to invite you to my birthday party. it's on july 6th in indiana and there will be cake and pie.

you are now my new best friend ever.

[mojo]

No, you are the one in the habit of ignoring or dismissing evidence when it goes contrary to what you believe...

No I don't. Prove this.

this can never be proven because it is absolutely untrue and the very idea is ridiculous. swst is the greatest debater of all time and has single-handedly destroyed the star trek side with his quick thinking and massive intellect. Praeothmin you are clearly having some sort of mental issue, there is no other possible explanation for your strange remarks and I am genuinely concerned for your health. please see a doctor immediately.

The DS does not contradict it, and if it does, you've failed to provide any evidence to why it would...

Because Mr. O says that hypermatter = fusion. Hypermatter is described in DS as tachyonic particles being confined to real space, somehow generating energy exceeding the potential of M/AM conversion. Fusion does not match the above description at all. Therefore, Mr. O's hypothesis of hypermatter = fusion is false.

not only is hypermatter NOT fusion, swst has clearly proven that fusion is not used in the star wars universe, has never been used in the star wars universe, and does not even exist in the star wars universe. therefore hypermatter cannot be explained away by calling it some crazy new kind of fusion. i mean, can you imagine if something in the star wars universe worked in a way that didn't immediately make sense given the wording used to describe it? you'd have things like magnetic fields holding air inside space stations and lasers that don't act like lasers and all kinds of wacky shit. it would be chaos! THANK GOD for swst and his ability to explain everything in a way that makes sense, no matter how many times we (and the rest of the world) fail to understand him. THANK YOU BFF!

You still ignore the ANG quote,

Because the quote is too vague, and there is nothing in it stating that it's a chain reaction (nor is there any reason why a farmboy would know of how the DS works)

i haven't even read the quote being brought up here and i already know that swst is right. it's sort of like he feels about wong and saxton. i don't understand the argument at all, but hey, look right there! he has said something about a farmboy not understanding the workings of a space station superweapon. that makes perfect sense, so don't anyone try to bring up anything like the author trying to find a way to work in exposition.

the DS database,

I already have rationalized it. Mr. O thinks that he should outright toss out explicit descriptions in the DS for it.

yeah. he did rationalize it. and we don't throw out explicit descriptions, regardless of how little sense they make in retrospect. THEY'RE FUCKING EXPLICIT DESCRIPTIONS. like when i say, 'SWST IS THE GREATEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO THIS FORUM, NAY, TO THE DEBATE ITSELF, AND EVERYTHING HE SAYS SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY ACCEPTED AS THE PUREST LOGIC. HIS MEREST ARGUMENT SHOULD BE ACCEPTED FOREVER AS CANON ABOVE ANY POSSIBLE DISSENSION. LUCAS? RODDENBERRY? MORONS.', then that is an explicit description and should not be thrown out.

the effects of a 1/3 power shot in the DS novel,

Done.

you idiots. can't you read? he says right there that he has already rationalized it. now let's have no more discussion of the matter.

the actual definition of main sequence stars and how much power they actually have,

Done.

ONCE AGAIN, he says he has rationalized it. HE SAID IT RIGHT THERE. anyone tries to argue this point again, after he clearly said that he has addressed the point sufficiently is clearly trolling and will be reported.

the two explosions clearly seen onscreen in ANH when Alderaan gets destroyed, etc, etc, etc...

Done.

DONE. he already addressed your whining pitiful points one by one. i know i am satisfied. i know that airlocke will be satisfied. JMS will DEFINITELY be satisfied. but EVEN NOW, after swst has deigned to show us his perfect shining logic, i have fear in my heart that both breetai and oragahn, and possibly even praeothmin, will SOMEHOW come up with some form of argument against incredible responses like 'Done.'
i warn you, do not anger swst. his intellect makes it like you fools are tiny ants, and he is a ..GIANT ANT.



this post is not a new form of trolling. in no way should the reader of this post take every single thing i have said here and then consider the exact opposite to be the actual meaning. as in, for instance, the following sentence - SWST is my favorite member of the board and it would break my heart to see him warned, banned, or jammed feet-first into a woodchipper.

[Jedi Master Spock]

this post is not a new form of trolling. in no way should the reader of this post take every single thing i have said here and then consider the exact opposite to be the actual meaning. as in, for instance, the following sentence - SWST is my favorite member of the board and it would break my heart to see him warned, banned, or jammed feet-first into a woodchipper.

Mojo, I may hand out the benefit of the doubt, but I don't think there's any doubt as to how your post is intended.

[Admiral Breetai]

that's not a new form of trolling at all it's a very old one

and I LOL'd hard but c'mon mojo the last thing every one wants is for you to take another dive trying to bring this troll down

[Admiral Breetai]

fap fap fap.


Oh, and by the way, I noticed that you seem to cite nuclear weapons as evidence of them winning. This is ridiculous; I don't see any kiloton level weapons in Desert Storm! The footages of Hiroshima are contradicted by on screen evidence.

this from his fanfiction thread I happen to know is an insult directed at me..the rest is him crying and basically mercilessly clowning on darkstar and every one else who happened to disagree with him

coupled with this little gem

Fuck you. You just called me sub-human, an insult that is simply unacceptable. Mike's response to this is to tell you to "calm down" and to sympathize with you? He shows no disgust at calling someone sub-human?

Mike is probably going to whine about me saying "fuck you". Yeah, calling somebody sub-human is something that he can sympathize with, but saying "fuck you" isn't.

were he lies about how Mike didn't warn mister O for misconduct and uses it as an excuse to bash mike while telling mister O to fuck himself...is pretty clear cut trolling behavior

I submit this as proof as I was asked too regarding SWST's blatant misconduct and ask that something be done because he's loosing it