Split: SDN Rules, Culture, and Moderation Habits

Dragoon · Post by **Dragoon** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:25 am

Insulting someone during a debate is not a valid tactic, even if you do present information. It's just common courtesy, even if you do think the other guy is a moron.

Nonamer · Post by **Nonamer** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:32 am

Dragoon wrote:Insulting someone during a debate is not a valid tactic, even if you do present information. It's just common courtesy, even if you do think the other guy is a moron.

Oh yes, I forgot: Clean debate standards never include insults or personal attacks in nearly every forum. SDN is the only place I know of that allows this. So any claims of strong debating standards existing in SDN is easily demolished by this fact alone.

SailorSaturn13 · Post by **SailorSaturn13** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:01 am

Why don't you sign up and try to be a member and see how easy going it is.

Pay 10 dollars to hear "Thisd is ICS you f**** s****eater!"???

Sorry, but i'de rather not.

I DID have an account there in early times... but left when it all started to become "Hive of scum and Villainy"

SDN = Senate Debate Newsgroup

AnonymousRedShirtEnsign · Post by **AnonymousRedShirtEnsign** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:06 am

50/50 is an approximation. This is a pretty small site, so we can't make a estimate. However, if it's a few thousand strong it shouldn't be 1/1000.

We can actually, obviously not everyone here voted, but enough to get a general idea of where people stand on this sight.

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=198

Post by **Mike DiCenso** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:42 pm

Well, at least among some of the active member here, the results are all across the board, with only a modest number stating that the whole war winds up a bitter stalemate. But there are at least two people who thinks the Empire outright wins easily, and a similar number who think the opposite. Do we know of a similar poll taken on SDN for a comparison?
-Mike

GStone · Post by **GStone** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:49 pm

I thought I had seen one long ago, but I'm not sure.

Post by **Mike DiCenso** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:01 pm

Then what about ASVS? Any similar polls conducted there?
-Mike

Socar · Post by **Socar** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:27 pm

How about this one: http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=74414

Dragoon · Post by **Dragoon** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:37 pm

Socar wrote:How about this one: http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=74414

Wow. Words cannot convey my amazement.

Post by **Mike DiCenso** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:43 pm

Bizarre, to say the least. But not unexpected, really.
-Mike

GStone · Post by **GStone** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:36 pm

That wasn't the one I was thinking of, but I gotta say...wow. 17 people voted that it would take "100,000,000" Trek 'verses to beat the Empire. One hundred-fucking-million. That's beyond even Wong's wanking of Wars. And yet, at the same time...8...count 'em 8 people said it would take just one. And that was the next highest amount. Both ends of the poll take up 51% of the total votes with the other half going between ten and ten millions and 19 of them said it would take between 10,000 and ten million.

But, the thread itself ended up being another wasteful storage space example that SDN has.

AnonymousRedShirtEnsign · Post by **AnonymousRedShirtEnsign** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:29 am

That's ridiculous. I guess that means on my poll that 8 people thought that the Feds win period (we have 7 as of now), 1 thought that it is a tie/ Empire barely wins (we have 7 as of now), and 39 thinks the Empire wins easily (we have 2). Clearly SDN is competely unbiased in this debate.

GStone · Post by **GStone** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:24 am

I think there was a thread about how long it'd take for one ISD to take over the whole Federation.

Praeothmin · Post by **Praeothmin** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:53 pm

Seriously, I don't see why we still keep on talking about how biased or not SDN is.

We know it is, we've all lurked there (I've posted there), and we've all seen how they react to newcomers who aren't die-hard Wars fans.
But that's ok, its their right to do so.

As long as this site doesn't turn into a mini SDN, I don't see why we should even care...

We should just go on with our debates, and leave them be.
Argue logically, not emotionally... :)

Nonamer · Post by **Nonamer** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:21 pm

Praeothmin wrote:Seriously, I don't see why we still keep on talking about how biased or not SDN is.

We know it is, we've all lurked there (I've posted there), and we've all seen how they react to newcomers who aren't die-hard Wars fans.
But that's ok, its their right to do so.

As long as this site doesn't turn into a mini SDN, I don't see why we should even care...

We should just go on with our debates, and leave them be.
Argue logically, not emotionally... :)

If only people from SDN can figure this out, we'd be far ahead.