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Post by Mike DiCenso » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:00 pm

Mr. Oragahn wrote: The other main problems are the aim, the ranges and the missing bolt fired by Munificent ships, missing Yoda's cruiser, flying towards Toydaria and doing shit to the planetary surface, at least nothing worth gigatons of firepower which would last long enough to be spotted under another angle minutes later.
Hello? What's this? I missed this. Are you sure that the bolts that missed Yoda's ship fly towards Toydaria? Interesting.
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Post by Mith » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:15 pm

Mike DiCenso wrote:
Mr. Oragahn wrote: The other main problems are the aim, the ranges and the missing bolt fired by Munificent ships, missing Yoda's cruiser, flying towards Toydaria and doing shit to the planetary surface, at least nothing worth gigatons of firepower which would last long enough to be spotted under another angle minutes later.
Hello? What's this? I missed this. Are you sure that the bolts that missed Yoda's ship fly towards Toydaria? Interesting.
-Mike
Yes they did, but rather than massive fireballs, we see a few giant rocks scatter on impact...

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Post by Mike DiCenso » Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:14 pm

Really? Can anyone get screencaps of this event? Is there anything to scale the shattered rocks to?
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Post by l33telboi » Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:46 pm

Cocytus wrote:As I recall, the damage to Malevolence was done because the weapon itself overloaded, as per Plo Koon's statement: "If we do enough damage, the weapon might overload when Greivous tries to fire." Though oddly, when Anakin breaks off the attack on the bridge, he veers to his left, which should mean he's attacking the starboard ion cannon. But in subsequent shots, it's the port cannon that's attacked, and it's the port cannon that explodes first.
Yes, but they still managed to damage it, which IMO is very strange. And their original plan was to take out the bridge. I mean those torps shouldn't even penetrate the shield. Yet you’re able to do noticeable and crippling damage to a capital ship with just one single bombing run from a bomber squadron.
Cocytus wrote:Yes they did, but rather than massive fireballs, we see a few giant rocks scatter on impact...
They might be flying towards the moon (it wasn’t Toydaria), but they doubtfully hit the surface (and if they did, they certainly didn't produce any noticeable effects at all). Most likely, the bolts exploded at some point though, before reaching the surface, like flak-blasts. We saw a few bolts from the barrage do this, so it's not that crazy an idea.

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Post by Mr. Oragahn » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:54 pm

Mith wrote:
Mike DiCenso wrote:
Mr. Oragahn wrote: The other main problems are the aim, the ranges and the missing bolt fired by Munificent ships, missing Yoda's cruiser, flying towards Toydaria and doing shit to the planetary surface, at least nothing worth gigatons of firepower which would last long enough to be spotted under another angle minutes later.
Hello? What's this? I missed this. Are you sure that the bolts that missed Yoda's ship fly towards Toydaria? Interesting.
-Mike
Yes they did, but rather than massive fireballs, we see a few giant rocks scatter on impact...
There were no impacts on the planet, even later when firing at the pods.
I suppose that yields were scaled down to offer greater firing rates, to shoot down the pods.
In the end, one pod was hit, but it was not vapourized.

One argument, however, could be that the bolts detonated or dissipated before reaching the planet.

The moment when the two CIS ships fire at Yoda's cruiser which is flying towards Toydaria is just before Dooku's statement about the ratio clones/droids.

EDIT: in the movie, there was that battle on the planet where Stinky was kept captive, plenty of fighters were buzzing around, shooting at each other, maybe a dozen kilometers above the ground or so.
The activity on the ground seemed rather quiet.

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Post by GStone » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:22 pm

Cocytus wrote:I actually caught this while visiting my sister and my niece. And I have to ask, am I the only one who thinks the Ion Weapon is incredibly stupid looking? The big pink wheel of electricity? It looks like a jellyfish or something. But that's just my opinion.
The ship itself looks like a fish, which is cool, but the weapon did have a jellyfish look to it. I would have gone with a sphere coming out of the sides, if it was gonna be on the side of the ship.

Well, it seems a new ep will be on at 9:30 tonight.

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Post by Mr. Oragahn » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:23 am

It fires pancakes. Giant... pancakes.

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Post by GStone » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:47 am

Yummy.

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Post by GStone » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:58 am

Mith wrote:It's possible that the screen the droid was looking at represented the area that would be too dangerous for the Malevolence to navigate through via hyperspace, but something smaller like a fighter could to a certain extent and then pass through the actual nebula itself.
Okay, the malevolence is a gas guzzler. It's taking them forever to cross just one parsec in hyperspace during the dialogue [edit: the dialogue on the malevolence after the droid said only 1 parsec left] and Plo Koo said a ship that size could only go a certain number of parsecs. I forget the exact dialogue.

And they should really drop the droid banter.

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Post by Mr. Oragahn » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:13 am

Yoda is perfectly nailed, done to the funny crazy Yoda aspects when he was first disclosed in TESB.

Music wise, here are the inspirations:

BSG
Stargate (the Goa'uld pair of two string notes going down, literally ripped off)
Some ancient time epic film score (Gladiator, Troy, etc.)
Middle East stuff

I really get used to the intro, and I love the Starship Trooperesque presentation, notably as it feels like it's from the 50s-60s.

Really, this may be the first SW material I'd buy since... woah, KOTOR?
I still don't wish to buy the prequels.

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Post by Mith » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:09 am

GStone wrote:
Mith wrote:It's possible that the screen the droid was looking at represented the area that would be too dangerous for the Malevolence to navigate through via hyperspace, but something smaller like a fighter could to a certain extent and then pass through the actual nebula itself.
Okay, the malevolence is a gas guzzler. It's taking them forever to cross just one parsec in hyperspace during the dialogue [edit: the dialogue on the malevolence after the droid said only 1 parsec left] and Plo Koo said a ship that size could only go a certain number of parsecs. I forget the exact dialogue.

And they should really drop the droid banter.
Actually, I would like a quote for that, since all I can remember is them saying that it be hard for it to navigate because of the nebula and its density. The good general said he was told that the ship was fast, so unless we have a contradictery quote (not to mention that the general would know more about the ship than Plo Koon), I'll have to discard that.

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Post by GStone » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:39 pm

I fully admit that I was multitasking at the time, but the lines are:

Anakin: The Rendelia system. Near Naboo. Isn't that where our medical base is? I'll bet that will be his next target.
Plo Koon: There are many star clusters in that area. With a ship that big, he will be unable to chart a course that's less than 10 parsecs.

http://www.surfthechannel.com/info/tele ... aid=269979

It's video, but it's at the 17:30 countdown mark. 6 minutes in. So, yeah, I misremembered that scene, but it still took them forever to travel the last parsec around the nebula in hyperspace.

However, this does bring up an interesting thing for navicomputers. The larger the ship you've got, the shorter you'll be able to plot courses, as you go along. I'd like to know just how this could remotely be consistent with hyperdrives taking people across Milky Way sized galaxies lickity split.

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Post by Mr. Oragahn » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:06 am

GStone wrote:I fully admit that I was multitasking at the time, but the lines are:

Anakin: The Rendelia system. Near Naboo. Isn't that where our medical base is? I'll bet that will be his next target.
Plo Koon: There are many star clusters in that area. With a ship that big, he will be unable to chart a course that's less than 10 parsecs.

http://www.surfthechannel.com/info/tele ... aid=269979

It's video, but it's at the 17:30 countdown mark. 6 minutes in. So, yeah, I misremembered that scene, but it still took them forever to travel the last parsec around the nebula in hyperspace.

However, this does bring up an interesting thing for navicomputers. The larger the ship you've got, the shorter you'll be able to plot courses, as you go along. I'd like to know just how this could remotely be consistent with hyperdrives taking people across Milky Way sized galaxies lickity split.
Actually, it says that the bigger the ship, the harder it is to plot small courses.

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Post by 2046 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:04 am

There is no visible weapons impact on the moon Rugosa (the moon where Yoda met the Toydarian).

In one scene shortly before the escape pod exits weapons range of the Separatist Munificent Class ships, we do get a view of Yoda's escape pod from the rear with missed shots flying all around it. Some of these explode into flak bursts. That is all.

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Post by GStone » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:55 am

Mr. Oragahn wrote:
GStone wrote:I fully admit that I was multitasking at the time, but the lines are:

Anakin: The Rendelia system. Near Naboo. Isn't that where our medical base is? I'll bet that will be his next target.
Plo Koon: There are many star clusters in that area. With a ship that big, he will be unable to chart a course that's less than 10 parsecs.

http://www.surfthechannel.com/info/tele ... aid=269979

It's video, but it's at the 17:30 countdown mark. 6 minutes in. So, yeah, I misremembered that scene, but it still took them forever to travel the last parsec around the nebula in hyperspace.

However, this does bring up an interesting thing for navicomputers. The larger the ship you've got, the shorter you'll be able to plot courses, as you go along. I'd like to know just how this could remotely be consistent with hyperdrives taking people across Milky Way sized galaxies lickity split.
Actually, it says that the bigger the ship, the harder it is to plot small courses.
Okay, I'm totally admitting to a complete brain fuck up from the last couple of days. I thought I was over it. [pinches nose bridge] I've been so out of it, I even went down to the mail box yesterday after I told someone specifically there was no mail monday and the 'no mail today' thing was a subject that actually went on all day long.

Edit: I need a candy dose. [goes to kitchen]

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