Starfleet Jedi

At San Diego Comic-Con the 2017 series name has been released and we also get our first look at the new starship which is the series' namesake: U.S.S. Discovery NCC-1031. According to other sources, this does take place in the Prime Timeline, not the Abramsverse, and based on Discovery's look and registry appears to take place sometime pre-TOS.

The ship's design is also very interesting in that it borrows very strongly from Ralph McQuarrie's never-used Enterprise design concepts for the proposed but never made Star TreK: Planet of the Titans movie.
-Mike

ok, a couple of things.

why is the ship bronze?

did anyone else laugh when the ship was pulling out of the dock and there was a loud screeching noise? i swear, it sounded exactly like Galaxy Quest, when the ship scraped against the wall coming out of the station.

It's bronze coz it's made of sh1t.

Incidentally, I thought it was a weird hybrid between a Klingon ship and a Federal saucer.
And, well, guess wut, it's all too possible that this first ship may, for some reason, be a stolen, retrofitted and pimped Klingon ship.
The entire show will be about the crew discovering that their ship keeps doing stuff that's incomprehensible. Like, go left and it will simply materialize a bowl of soup in appartment 21 on deck F instead.

Oh, besides, the banging on metal pipes (or whatever it is) at the very end of the score used in this trailer is typical of the tunes used for any Klingon warbird's presence on screen.

And the ship is sweet stylish btw.

Bump. Sorry if this has already been addressed somewhere else, but it just dawned on me, if the Discovery's registry is 1031, and it is supposed to be set in 2255, while the Enterprise 1701 was commissioned in 2245, wouldn't that pretty well kill the sequential registry thing once and for all? Unless of course the Discovery is coming out of a refit instead being a new ship getting launched. Just a thought.

It's probably worse than a refit and more like some horrible chimera.
You've got a Klingonesque central hull and some sort of home made nacelles added to it, adapted to the design, plus a typical saucer because the UFP can't drive ships without them.
It's surprising this beast would even get an official registry number at all. I suspect the possible cloaking technology would make things potentially more difficult.

Darth Spock wrote:Bump. Sorry if this has already been addressed somewhere else, but it just dawned on me, if the Discovery's registry is 1031, and it is supposed to be set in 2255, while the Enterprise 1701 was commissioned in 2245, wouldn't that pretty well kill the sequential registry thing once and for all? Unless of course the Discovery is coming out of a refit instead being a new ship getting launched. Just a thought.

Not to go all codger, but the proof of this being in an unmodified timeline will be in the pudding. If the pudding is different, then as far as I am concerned this is the same thing as Not-our-Spock from JJ-Trek.

Unfortunately, for the "Not-our-Spock" theory, the portrait that Kelvin Timeline Spock is given confirms he's from the Prime Timeline and there will always be slight inconsistencies no matter what anyone does. That's just been an unfortunate reality for Trek productions in general.
-Mike

Darth Spock wrote:Bump. Sorry if this has already been addressed somewhere else, but it just dawned on me, if the Discovery's registry is 1031, and it is supposed to be set in 2255, while the Enterprise 1701 was commissioned in 2245, wouldn't that pretty well kill the sequential registry thing once and for all? Unless of course the Discovery is coming out of a refit instead being a new ship getting launched. Just a thought.

We don't know when Discovery was built. It looks like an older ship than the Constitution-class, one of the designs, like the Kelvin-type, that bridges the gap between the NX-class and the mid-to-late 23rd century starships. But, even if it turns out not to be older, then it's okay since we saw the Constitution-class Constellation with the infamous NCC-1017 registry. Overall we see the registries getting higher over time, not lower, but there are exceptions. With the various starship Enterprise those are straight-forward honorary reuses of the original 1701 number. Could it be the same for other ships? It was originally to be the case for the Galaxy-class USS Yamato, but that got retconned out. So what other reasons for the occasional low number cropping up?
-Mike

Mike DiCenso wrote:Unfortunately, for the "Not-our-Spock" theory, the portrait that Kelvin Timeline Spock is given confirms he's from the Prime Timeline and there will always be slight inconsistencies no matter what anyone does. That's just been an unfortunate reality for Trek productions in general.
-Mike

I don't understand the reference to a portrait.

Slight inconsistencies are okay, just not myriad intentional ones.

Trailer's out.

Trailer

The production values are fantastic, many of the scenes epic in scope and complexity.

However, what the hell is that quadra-nostrilled Claw-ngon? Looks like a Klingon and Xindi-Reptilian had a night of passion.

And it is sooooo JJ-Trek: The Previous Generation, down to the bridge window and graphic styling. And those uniforms are more ridiculous than the Orville ones, yet not intentionally.

I am actually more excited by Seth MacFarlane's The Orville, which has more Trek actors and sounds and concepts. Indeed, I daresay the timing will kill Discovery.

I don't know...Discovery still looks ugly to me. Almost what I'd expect a villain's ship to look like. Or maybe something from the Imperium of Man if you added some skulls and religious iconography.

Also, I'm not saying its a bad thing, but for a show called "Discovery" the trailer seemed more conflict focused than filled with the wonder of exploration.

But it does look impressive with very slick visuals.

My thoughts at least.

-Respectfully, Sonofccn

Regarding any bronze coloration to Discovery (if applicable now), I would actually like that. I mean, it doesn't fit the TOS style, but the NX-01 had more than a touch of nickelsilver to her. Compare with Columbia: