Starfleet Jedi

Posted: **Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:17 am**

What Treknologies can you think of that would make thing appear to be in places they aren't, appear to change size, and things like that?

Shields
TOS: Tomorrow is Yesterday
SPOCK: We've achieved a stable orbit out of Earth's atmosphere. Our deflectors are operative, enough to prevent our being picked up again as a UFO. And Mister Scott wishes to speak to you about the engines.

Voyager: Future's End Part 1 & Part 2
JANEWAY: Maintain a high orbit and modulate the shields to scatter their radar. We don't want to alarm the natives.
.....
[Shuttlecraft]
TORRES: Interferometric dispersion is online. That should take care of any radar detection. And I've configured the shields to disguise our visual profile. Unless somebody gets right on top of us, we should look like a small twentieth century aircraft.

Star Trek: Generations
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albu ... hd1283.jpg
(Shields on United Federation of Planets starships are gravitational distortions that deflect threats away from the ship.)

Propulsion
Best Of Both Worlds Part 2
SHELBY: What about the heavy graviton beam we were talking about? 
LAFORGE: I've gone over it four times. The local field distortion just wouldn't be strong enough to incapacitate them.

Star Trek: First Contact
[Phoenix cockpit]

LAFORGE: Plasma injectors are on-line. Everything's looking good. I think we're ready. 
RIKER: They should be out there right now. We better break the warp barrier in the next five minutes if we're going to get their attention. 
LAFORGE: Main cells are charged and ready. 
RIKER: Let's do it. 
COCHRANE: Engage. 
LAFORGE: Warp field is looking good. Structural integrity is holding. 
RIKER: Speed, twenty thousand kilometres per second. 
COCHRANE: Sweet Jesus! 
(Cochrane has spotted the Enterprise in orbit) 
RIKER: Relax, Doctor. I'm sure they're just here to give us a send-off.
acceleration

Enterprise: Divergence
http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... ce_033.jpg
http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... ce_112.jpg
http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... ce_113.jpg
(Warp fields are physical distortions in space/time)

Can anyone think of anything else?

Posted: **Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:57 pm**

Lucky wrote:Shields
TOS: Tomorrow is Yesterday
SPOCK: We've achieved a stable orbit out of Earth's atmosphere. Our deflectors are operative, enough to prevent our being picked up again as a UFO. And Mister Scott wishes to speak to you about the engines.

Voyager: Future's End Part 1 & Part 2
JANEWAY: Maintain a high orbit and modulate the shields to scatter their radar. We don't want to alarm the natives.
.....
[Shuttlecraft]
TORRES: Interferometric dispersion is online. That should take care of any radar detection. And I've configured the shields to disguise our visual profile. Unless somebody gets right on top of us, we should look like a small twentieth century aircraft.

This is actually quite interesting since it essentially confirms that even regular shields can act as cloaking devices to relatively primitive sensors. Although I doubt it was intended, the TOS "Tomorrow is Yesterday", and "Future's End" are really a great case of tech continuity in Trek.

This also may explain why cloaking fields are referred to as "cloaking shields", and why in "The Enterprise Incident" Scotty had to hook up the device to the E-1701's deflector control:

SCOTT: But, sir, what about Mister Spock?

KIRK: We'll just have to hope he can buy us enough time to get this cloaking device installed.

SCOTT: It'll have to hook into our deflector shield control.

KIRK: Can you do it?

SCOTT: I don't know, sir.

KIRK: You have fifteen minutes, Scotty.

So it seems there's a lot we're missing when it comes to understanding the nature of Star Trek shields and their apparent cloaking device spin off.
-Mike

Posted: **Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:06 pm**

Lucky wrote:Shields
TOS: Tomorrow is Yesterday
SPOCK: We've achieved a stable orbit out of Earth's atmosphere. Our deflectors are operative, enough to prevent our being picked up again as a UFO. And Mister Scott wishes to speak to you about the engines.

Voyager: Future's End Part 1 & Part 2
JANEWAY: Maintain a high orbit and modulate the shields to scatter their radar. We don't want to alarm the natives.
.....
[Shuttlecraft]
TORRES: Interferometric dispersion is online. That should take care of any radar detection. And I've configured the shields to disguise our visual profile. Unless somebody gets right on top of us, we should look like a small twentieth century aircraft.

Mike DiCenso wrote:
This is actually quite interesting since it essentially confirmation that even regular shields can act as cloaking devices to relatively primitive sensors. Although I doubt it was intended, the TOS "Tomorrow is Yesterday", and "Future's End" are really a great case of tech continuity in Trek.

This also may explain why cloaking fields are referred to as "cloaking shields", and why in "The Enterprise Incident" Scotty had to hook up the device to the E-1701's deflector control:

SCOTT: But, sir, what about Mister Spock?

KIRK: We'll just have to hope he can buy us enough time to get this cloaking device installed.

SCOTT: It'll have to hook into our deflector shield control.

KIRK: Can you do it?

SCOTT: I don't know, sir.

KIRK: You have fifteen minutes, Scotty.

So it seems there's a lot we're missing when it comes to understanding the nature of Star Trek shields and their apparent cloaking device spin off.
-Mike

There is also the example of the Enterprise-D sitting in orbit of a planet about to produce its first warp drive in First Contact, and there being a panic about an alien invasion on the ground do to Riker being taken to a hospital.

I've actually brought this up several times. You can't target Trek ships with the naked eye or EM sensors very well if at all.
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Can you think of any other common treknology that would cause the inaccuracies we see in Star Trek visual effects?

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