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Jasonb wrote:Ok guys you want debate here in Yesterday Enterprise timeline in Starfleet jedi knight I am welling do it on this posts. Lets not mess up any other posts.
Let see arguement for Klingon Empire winning well only what Caption Pircard said and that only has to do starfleet intelligence believe.
Let see argument for UFP winning. Well Klingon Empire decide send in three warships going suicide mission to destroy one UFP starships and they did not even cloak themselves. Evidence to me that the cloak device those starship not working. USS Enterprise D in practice could take all three on alone if she want offensive. After all USS Enterprise D 5 photon torpedoes took about half the shields of one BOP and USS Enterprise D fire all her phaser one time destroy BOP. if USS Enterprise D only want charging fire both phaser and photon torpedoes at the 3 BOP she destroy at least two them before she need recharge phaser entirely and need reload. Only reason USS Enterprise D did not that was because she had protected USS Enterprise C. So we supposed believe Klingon captions suicidal did it for no reason or desperation to make sure UFP did get another ship so Klingon Empire survival a little longer before getting over run UFP. Also add to factors during Star Terk Apocalypse Rising all Sisko could say war not going well practice meant UFP losing. However Sons of Mogh Worf bother openly admit the Klingon Empire did not stand a chance against UFP. So even have another example of UFP thinking losing against Klingon Empire when it was not.
Of course everyone right their option.

Mr. Oragahn wrote:

Jasonb wrote:Ok guys you want debate here in Yesterday Enterprise timeline in Starfleet jedi knight I am welling do it on this posts. Lets not mess up any other posts.
Let see arguement for Klingon Empire winning well only what Caption Pircard said and that only has to do starfleet intelligence believe.
Let see argument for UFP winning. Well Klingon Empire decide send in three warships going suicide mission to destroy one UFP starships and they did not even cloak themselves. Evidence to me that the cloak device those starship not working. USS Enterprise D in practice could take all three on alone if she want offensive. After all USS Enterprise D 5 photon torpedoes took about half the shields of one BOP and USS Enterprise D fire all her phaser one time destroy BOP. if USS Enterprise D only want charging fire both phaser and photon torpedoes at the 3 BOP she destroy at least two them before she need recharge phaser entirely and need reload. Only reason USS Enterprise D did not that was because she had protected USS Enterprise C. So we supposed believe Klingon captions suicidal did it for no reason or desperation to make sure UFP did get another ship so Klingon Empire survival a little longer before getting over run UFP. Also add to factors during Star Terk Apocalypse Rising all Sisko could say war not going well practice meant UFP losing. However Sons of Mogh Worf bother openly admit the Klingon Empire did not stand a chance against UFP. So even have another example of UFP thinking losing against Klingon Empire when it was not.
Of course everyone right their option.

What's going on guys? Nobody "want debate here in Yesterday Enterprise timeline in Starfleet jedi knight" or what?

Picard wrote:@Jasonb



You idiot. Klingons were suicidal because that is their standard Modus Operandi, and by the way, they probably realized what is happening with E-C going back throught time vortex.

Jasonb wrote: So you suggestion that they know the Enterprise C going back to were she coming. So why did they not just decloak blow Enterprise C bits in that cases and then destroy the vortex at right.
My answer must ships did not have working cloak devices Klingon were losing war and they believe USS Enterprise C going though wornhole get starbase fasters.

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Jasonb wrote:

Picard wrote:@Jasonb



You idiot. Klingons were suicidal because that is their standard Modus Operandi, and by the way, they probably realized what is happening with E-C going back throught time vortex.

So you suggestion that they know the Enterprise C going back to were she coming. So why did they not just decloak blow Enterprise C bits in that cases and then destroy the vortex at right.
My answer must ships did not have working cloak devices Klingon were losing war and they believe USS Enterprise C going though wornhole get starbase fasters.

Picard wrote:

Jasonb wrote:

Picard wrote:@Jasonb



You idiot. Klingons were suicidal because that is their standard Modus Operandi, and by the way, they probably realized what is happening with E-C going back throught time vortex.

So you suggestion that they know the Enterprise C going back to were she coming. So why did they not just decloak blow Enterprise C bits in that cases and then destroy the vortex at right.
My answer must ships did not have working cloak devices Klingon were losing war and they believe USS Enterprise C going though wornhole get starbase fasters.

This is not about cloaking devices, this is about who was winning a war between UFP and KE in AltTimeline, and UFP was clearly losing it.

Sideswipe wrote:Yeah, they were losing bad enough that they had cosidered putting Enterprise-C back in the fleet to use in the war.

Jasonb wrote:

Sideswipe wrote:Yeah, they were losing bad enough that they had cosidered putting Enterprise-C back in the fleet to use in the war.

That nothing the ambassador class starship build about 22 years ago must advance class starship time one could intercept it that way. They going first bring to starbase having upgrade before brought into war. The fact that they The Excelsior-class and is nearly hundred year old starship being used during the Dominion war. Fact that Riker even said that even if that ship little old suggestion either trying make joke or every other starship build 21 years ago or older was destroy UFP fleet basic put state of the art. Which mean Klingon done great deal building themselves since good number starships lost as well. Good amount evidence Klingon Empire was using decoy trick UFP making look fleet much bigger real have. Beyond fact evidence Klingon Empire us tactic both TOS and DS9 no reason guess not us Yesterday Enterprise timeline. Is fact UFP monitor stations 3 Klingon warships in the same sector that USS Enterprise D and USS Enterprise C were in. So what took Klingon so long to find USS Enterprise C and Enterprise D. My answer were no starships just decoys. However like hear other possible answers from you guys.