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A Defiant Class Starship vs a Corellian Gunship

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:18 pm
by User1469
Mid Range Megatons for the Corellian Gunship (50)
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DP20_frigate
Low Range Megatons for the Defiant Class. (20)
Standard Defiant only. No cloak.
Generic Captains for each. No fleeing to warp or hyperspace, no transporters.

Battle takes place in orbit around a small planet.

Who wins?

Btw no argueing firepower calcs.



I love both ships:)

Re: A Defiant Class Starship vs a Corellian Gunship

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:21 pm
by Admiral Breetai
probably the more maneuverable tougher ship with the better damage soak least wise as far as I've seen the little D's can take some serious abuse

incidentally the gun ship looks really cool like something out of those old pulp comics about space colonization

Re: A Defiant Class Starship vs a Corellian Gunship

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:27 pm
by Praeothmin
Since we can't argue firepower (which I believe is wrong), then I agree with Admiral BreetaĆ®, but since we do not know how maneuverable the DP20 is, it's a tough call...

Re: A Defiant Class Starship vs a Corellian Gunship

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:14 pm
by Admiral Breetai
that thing while looking really awesome and all does look like it has allot of juicy spots to shoot at and I'm not sure from reading the description whether it has the speed or agility to cover all of its vulnerable spots from Defiant fire

I guess the question i should be asking is the Defiant run by a generic commander who at least has some combat experience? or are you sporting the little D your typical hippie and is the fight done IC?

Re: A Defiant Class Starship vs a Corellian Gunship

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:26 pm
by User1469
A Tactile commander is a must for Trek, and yes reg competence for both Captains.

Re: A Defiant Class Starship vs a Corellian Gunship

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:46 pm
by Praeothmin
What do we know of the maneuverability of the DP20?

Re: A Defiant Class Starship vs a Corellian Gunship

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:30 am
by Mr. Oragahn
Quantum torps at long range, no?
Ships in SW, at least of that tonnage, have shown nothing of the maneuverability of their Trek counterparts. Not to say that accuracy is considerably worse (that said the Defiant has no phaser strip so it's just dumb firing mode, straight ahead, which forces to approach the target on a collision course).

If the Defiant is going to explode, their better maneuverability can guarantee them nice probabilities of a proper kamikaze run. The antimatter will do the rest.

Re: A Defiant Class Starship vs a Corellian Gunship

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:12 am
by Mike DiCenso
.... And this thread is being moved to the Trek/Wars section where it belongs.
-Mike

Re: A Defiant Class Starship vs a Corellian Gunship

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:04 am
by Admiral Breetai
what kind of a pounding can the Corellian ships take mat?

Re: A Defiant Class Starship vs a Corellian Gunship

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:14 pm
by User1469
Mr. O. Memory Alpha has the Defiant with phaser strips.

Re: A Defiant Class Starship vs a Corellian Gunship

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:46 pm
by Cocytus
The Defiant fired a phaser beam from the bridge area in "Paradise Lost."

http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... st_525.jpg

Re: A Defiant Class Starship vs a Corellian Gunship

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:45 pm
by Trinoya
I give this to the defiant for its better range and maunverability. The gunship is supposed to be almost as fast as a Y-Wing and we saw some pretty serious acceleration...

However: If we just get into a situation where they two ships keeping doing passes against one another, the gunship will win, by virtue of OP giving it superior fire power.

Re: A Defiant Class Starship vs a Corellian Gunship

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:29 pm
by Picard
Superior firepower? ...not quite. If I understood it correctly, firepower was per shot, which means that Defiant still enjoys slight firepower advantage (4 guns, each capable of firing 4-12 shots per second, that is 80 to 240 megatons per second, without torpedoes and beam emitters. Gunship might, based on ANH chase scene, put out 2 to 3 shots per second total, that is 100 to 150 megatons per second). So firepower/second is similar.

Re: A Defiant Class Starship vs a Corellian Gunship

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:25 pm
by User1469
Thats a corellian corvette that was modified. Not a Gunship.

The Gunship is ment to spam firepower.

Re: A Defiant Class Starship vs a Corellian Gunship

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:53 pm
by Picard
Ah... my unfamiliarity with non-canon kicks in again.