Hyperdrive: engines or freeways?

[Mike DiCenso]

Yes, but that's all it could expect to save, they weren't getting there in a matter of days. A shortcut can only get so short, before you have to go faster to make a difference. Conduits would make that happen.

Uh? In three seperate instances across Voyager's path, years were shaved off. Now think about this and combine it with episodes like TNG's "The Chase", where the E-D, a top of the line starship white traversing what appears to be a significant portion of the Alpha and Beta quadrants does so in a matter of days to weeks.

Yes but again Vulcan was still only one planet, it's a matter of organization and resources.

Again, this makes no sense given the information we have. Warp drive existed before there was a Federation, perhaps by thousands of years. In addition to Vulcan, Andor, Tellar, Orion and more had warp drive before there was a Federation. All these powers seem to have a fairly impressive ability to travel about that portion of the galaxy.

DS9 simply surrounded a small wormhole with mines, you can't do that with a route.
Gravitic mines also only apply in the minefield itself. There's no way to mine space, it's just too big; it would have to be a conduit.

Yet apparently hyperspace routes were mined during the Clone Wars, and others denied to the Republic by the CIS. You'd think that the routes would be so big that such a thing is impractical, and yet... there it is.
-Mike

[User1461]

Yes, but that's all it could expect to save, they weren't getting there in a matter of days. A shortcut can only get so short, before you have to go faster to make a difference. Conduits would make that happen.

Uh? In three seperate instances across Voyager's path, years were shaved off.

It's still a fraction, using data mined from civilizations that had mapped it for centuries.

Now think about this and combine it with episodes like TNG's "The Chase", where the E-D, a top of the line starship white traversing what appears to be a significant portion of the Alpha and Beta quadrants does so in a matter of days to weeks.

That's impossible to quantify with any reliability.

Yes but again Vulcan was still only one planet, it's a matter of organization and resources.

Again, this makes no sense given the information we have. Warp drive existed before there was a Federation, perhaps by thousands of years. In addition to Vulcan, Andor, Tellar, Orion and more had warp drive before there was a Federation. All these powers seem to have a fairly impressive ability to travel about that portion of the galaxy.

It makes perfect sense: they weren't organized, and you'd need cooperation among the local systems.

DS9 simply surrounded a small wormhole with mines, you can't do that with a route.
Gravitic mines also only apply in the minefield itself. There's no way to mine space, it's just too big; it would have to be a conduit.

Yet apparently hyperspace routes were mined during the Clone Wars, and others denied to the Republic by the CIS. You'd think that the routes would be so big that such a thing is impractical, and yet... there it is.
-Mike

Yes-- proving the conduit-theory, since mining space-routes is impossible.