TCW/LFL intent: frustrate/destroy the versus debate?

[Mr. Oragahn]

We are talking about conventions, and it's much easier to break SoD in live action movies than in cartoonesque shows, as simple as that, and this is the crux of the problem.

That seems to be the exact opposite from what your attitudes suggest, since your arguments and complaints are firmly centered around how TCW ignores physics and that it consequently sucks.

These conventions are likely going to be found in CGI cartoonesque SF productions, and amplified by several degrees with new ones added on.

We can at least agree on that, as basic as that assertion is. But you seem to react to it as if it's some sort of crime against humanity.

On the exhaust, the two starfighters repeatedly overtake the massive warships from the stern to bow.
That ion clouds dispersing is not a problem at all, on the contrary. The particles will fan out, but momentum being a bitch, they'll do while also moving towards the starfighters. You have massive thrusters ejecting massive amounts of matter to move their mass forward.
Again, check the movie.

Unless a starship's drive were directly pointed at a starfighter at a close enough range, no.

Notice that the buzz droid doesn't suddenly fly away like it would have done in a normal atmosphere when sitting on the wing of a starfighter moving at the speed it did.
We see variations in how the gases and particles move backwards. Sometimes, it's fast, sometimes it's not, like when the buzzdroid open themselves, the grey cloud of smoke expands at 360° before moving backwards to the fighter.

So?

As GL ever said he wanted such a thing to boot? He's not betraying anyone as far as I'm concerned.
What if they don't care either way?

Well the only people he could really "betray" would be people he directly employs anyway.

*Muses about the sheer amount of wasted time...*

*shrugs* It's only as much of a waste of time as the Star Trek vs. Star Wars debate as a whole, yet here we are.

OK, I thought we could have some reasonable discussion, but besides your several blatant strawmen, I don't see how the use of Kirmit puppet pictures helps.

I made my point clear, and if anything, you can focus on my post that predates this very one.

Oh, and gases expand. So you don't need to be in the direct axis of a thruster to be affected by its ejecta, as long as you stand in its expanding ejecta cone.

[ILikeDeathNote]

OK, I thought we could have some reasonable discussion, but besides your several blatant strawmen

What strawmen? I've addressed all of your points.

, I don't see how the use of Kirmit puppet pictures helps.

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Oh, and gases expand. So you don't need to be in the direct axis of a thruster to be affected by its ejecta, as long as you stand in its expanding ejecta cone.

In order to maximize efficiency, you would eject ions (assuming that these are indeed ion engines) in the exact opposite direction you wish to travel. Which is one direction.

We can't even be sure they are ion engines, because truth be told ion engines are kinda lousy engines. We're not even sure they eject matter; they could be photon engines

[Mr. Oragahn]

In order to maximize efficiency, you would eject ions (assuming that these are indeed ion engines) in the exact opposite direction you wish to travel. Which is one direction.

We can't even be sure they are ion engines, because truth be told ion engines are kinda lousy engines. We're not even sure they eject matter; they could be photon engines

They're described as ion engines in many sources, and their hot concentrated gases will still expand once out, even if invisible. It's like having a large growing cloud coming at you.

Constantly.

[ILikeDeathNote]

They're described as ion engines in many sources

But don't behave like them, namely in that they behave as if they have a very high thrust output, something not practical if not possible for ion engines as we know them, as explained in the link I gave.

[Mr. Oragahn]

They're described as ion engines in many sources

But don't behave like them, namely in that they behave as if they have a very high thrust output, something not practical if not possible for ion engines as we know them, as explained in the link I gave.

I don't dispute the info at the end of the link, that's been an aspect of ion engines which has always been problematic with claims of ion engines. No matter what kind of engine you use, the exhaust will still create that moving and expanding "atmosphere" you need.