Starfleet Jedi

The set-up. A Borg scoutship, a Zerg queen, and a starship carrying six missionaries have all landed on some inhabited island on a far away planet. They each try to convert the natives to their own side. Once someone is turned, they can't be taken over by either of the other sides. Whichever side gets the largest amount of villagers assimilated in 100 days, wins.

So, who pulls it off?

Khas wrote:The set-up. A Borg scoutship, a Zerg queen, and a starship carrying six missionaries have all landed on some inhabited island on a far away planet. They each try to convert the natives to their own side. Once someone is turned, they can't be taken over by either of the other sides. Whichever side gets the largest amount of villagers assimilated in 100 days, wins.

So, who pulls it off?

Let's see, space zombies with scary tech vs aliens ripoffs vs humans without weapons.

I can see either the Zerg 'winning' by eating everyone or the Borg by assimilating forcefully (both would be done in a day or so). The missionaries would stand an excellent chance if they get there first and can make the threat of the others (plus the immunity converting grants) clear enough.

Now, the Borg have teleportation so I'm going to give it to them for now.
2nd place for the Zerg because they're faster than any old human but slower than the Borg in getting there.
3rd place for the Christians because I just don't see them getting there in time.

Wildcard: should the Christians arrive first and have some form of proof about the terrible fate that awaits the villagers otherwise - then they win :)

Umm... This OP is ridiculous Christians cannot assimilate in any way remotely like the Borg can. Conversion to Christianity is strictly voluntary. While assimilation by any of the other 2 is not...

PunkMaister wrote:Umm... This OP is ridiculous Christians cannot assimilate in any way remotely like the Borg can. Conversion to Christianity is strictly voluntary. While assimilation by any of the other 2 is not...

No. Conversion to Christianity is NOT strictly voluntary. During the Spanish Conquest of Mexico and South America, Spanish priests forced Christianity on the natives. Last time I checked, forcing your religion on someone isn't having them willfully converted.

Khas wrote:

PunkMaister wrote:Umm... This OP is ridiculous Christians cannot assimilate in any way remotely like the Borg can. Conversion to Christianity is strictly voluntary. While assimilation by any of the other 2 is not...

No. Conversion to Christianity is NOT strictly voluntary. During the Spanish Conquest of Mexico and South America, Spanish priests forced Christianity on the natives. Last time I checked, forcing your religion on someone isn't having them willfully converted.

Or even the crusades... :)

And those who did not convert were... unable to go back to their old faith afterwards... :)

Praeothmin wrote:

Khas wrote:

PunkMaister wrote:Umm... This OP is ridiculous Christians cannot assimilate in any way remotely like the Borg can. Conversion to Christianity is strictly voluntary. While assimilation by any of the other 2 is not...

No. Conversion to Christianity is NOT strictly voluntary. During the Spanish Conquest of Mexico and South America, Spanish priests forced Christianity on the natives. Last time I checked, forcing your religion on someone isn't having them willfully converted.

Or even the crusades... :)

And those who did not convert were... unable to go back to their old faith afterwards... :)

Good Catch! Forgot to mention those "incidents".

During the inquisition the Roman Catholic church did enforce their beliefs and as a consequence it was the policy that Spain brought to the Americas. The Crusades contrary to popular belief did not happen in a vacuum but as a result of Islamic aggression and expansionism so while is true that many took advantage of the call to war to line their pockets the main reason to go to war was not it...


Christianity or to be more precise Catholicism is no longer pursuing forced conversions they abandoned that practice well over a 100 years ago by now...

The OP mentions Christians so present day Catholics and Christians cannot be in this OP, it should have specifically mentioned Inquisition/Crusades era. which again puts them in a terrible disadvantage given the fact that they face far superior technology from the Borg and the Zerg.

A complication: The Borg are essentially landing in a technological vacuum. The Borg can probably convert people faster than the other two - to start with. But the Borg's primary assimilation technique is through assimilation chambers, and it'll take a while to build new ones.

Meanwhile, the Zerg will grow exponentially (along with, we presume, the missionaries able to perform the miraculous act of preventing assimilation).

With six missionaries, I see the main problem of the missionaries being lead time. It takes time to earn trust and start convincing people - weeks or months. Years, sometimes. It takes the Borg - what, a couple hours to perform an assimilation?

If the island population is large enough - say, millions of people - the Zerg may overtake the Borg. Since all three groups are forbidden from interacting, it's pretty much certain that all three groups will have some converts. The missionaries are coming on a starship, so presumably they have universal translators and the ability to island hop, but it's still going to be very difficult for them to make much headway until the fringe benefits (not being eaten by a mutalisk) are apparent.

At which point they're going to be pretty far behind.

Praeothmin wrote:

Khas wrote:

PunkMaister wrote:Umm... This OP is ridiculous Christians cannot assimilate in any way remotely like the Borg can. Conversion to Christianity is strictly voluntary. While assimilation by any of the other 2 is not...

No. Conversion to Christianity is NOT strictly voluntary. During the Spanish Conquest of Mexico and South America, Spanish priests forced Christianity on the natives. Last time I checked, forcing your religion on someone isn't having them willfully converted.

Or even the crusades... :)

And those who did not convert were... unable to go back to their old faith afterwards... :)

How big a crusade do you think six people are going to be able to perform?

This has just turned at this point at nothing more than a Christian bashing thread even though the OP of modern day Christians engaging in a holy war of extermination makes no sense and much less that they are somehow able to assimilate quicker than the Borg or any other scifi species out there.

PunkMaister wrote:This has just turned at this point at nothing more than a Christian bashing thread even though the OP of modern day Christians engaging in a holy war of extermination makes no sense and much less that they are somehow able to assimilate quicker than the Borg or any other scifi species out there.

First part was NOT my intention.

About the Borg in this thread, I gave them a SCOUTSHIP, the kind they found Hugh in, with only five drones. Just to keep numbers low on all sides.

And if anyone is made fun of in it, it's Televangelists and other people always shouting "Jesus Saves". Because in this case, well, he really does :P

Well, I'm not aware of how big the population is or the technology level.. but regardless, if the Borg stick to only assimilating those who are easy targets at first.. and at least double the number of drones capturing every person by the hour... they should have, within a normal Earth day (presuming we start with just ONE drone at the beginning)... 16,777,216 drones...


Borg Win.

Neither the Christians nor the Zerg can even remotely challenge that.

Ditch the Christians and add one of the Ori's Priors instead.

Mr. Oragahn wrote:Ditch the Christians and add one of the Ori's Priors instead.

Now that would work perfectly... I'd add 2 but it would be overkill... :D

Mr. Oragahn wrote:Ditch the Christians and add one of the Ori's Priors instead.

D'oh!
But, that could also be a curbstomp, seeing what even ONE prior is capable of...