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If these 2 warring species from different universes ever met how would they feel about it?

Are we talking a meeting between Klingons and free Jaffa, or those still under the sway of the Goa'uld? If the former see this thread on Worf vs T'ealc for an idea on how things might go.
-Mike

Mike DiCenso wrote:Are we talking a meeting between Klingons and free Jaffa, or those still under the sway of the Goa'uld? If the former see this thread on Worf vs T'ealc for an idea on how things might go.
-Mike

The Free Jaffa nation and the Klingon empire to be exact. What if they met.

I don't see why they would fight, beyond the usual misunderstandings that can come out of first contact. But the Klingons would probably see the Free Jaffa as quite honorable with a very worthy cause worth allying and helping them in their fight to free their brethren from Goa'uld tyranny.
-Mike

They'd probably just have a beer, their pretty much the same thing. One set is just lacking a bumpy forehead.

The Corporal wrote:They'd probably just have a beer, their pretty much the same thing. One set is just lacking a bumpy forehead.

True they share their sense of honor and warrior lifestyle but at the same time will the Klingons be able to look past the fact that the Jaffa are essentially genetically enhanced humans created by the Goa'uld to be their servants and foot soldiers ages ago. The fact that the appearance is still human and that they do not like humans very much in the first place could play a role in all this. So they will probably in some instances forge friendships and alliances but they will probably be at us and distrust each other just as much.

PunkMaister wrote:
True they share their sense of honor and warrior lifestyle but at the same time will the Klingons be able to look past the fact that the Jaffa are essentially genetically enhanced humans created by the Goa'uld to be their servants and foot soldiers ages ago. The fact that the appearance is still human and that they do not like humans very much in the first place could play a role in all this. So they will probably in some instances forge friendships and alliances but they will probably be at us and distrust each other just as much.

What are you basing this on? From TNG onward Klingons are consistantly shown to be allies of the Federation and humans and even though we're weaker than them they still respect us.

The Corporal wrote:

PunkMaister wrote:
True they share their sense of honor and warrior lifestyle but at the same time will the Klingons be able to look past the fact that the Jaffa are essentially genetically enhanced humans created by the Goa'uld to be their servants and foot soldiers ages ago. The fact that the appearance is still human and that they do not like humans very much in the first place could play a role in all this. So they will probably in some instances forge friendships and alliances but they will probably be at us and distrust each other just as much.

What are you basing this on? From TNG onward Klingons are consistantly shown to be allies of the Federation and humans and even though we're weaker than them they still respect us.

And a tense relationship it always was, in fact they even broke the treaty and the alliance and turned to their old ways for a while. They had to give that crap up only because the Dominion was kicking their collective butts so they needed to restore their alliance with the federation. But then again so has been the alliance between the Jaffa and the Tauri.

Point is both sides have supremacists and we have seen this with Gorkon when he attacked Cardassia and DS9 itself and with the Jaffa that used the Dakara weapon to kill everyone in a planet that had converted to the Ori just because they could.

PunkMaister wrote:
And a tense relationship it always was, in fact they even broke the treaty and the alliance and turned to their old ways for a while. They had to give that crap up only because the Dominion was kicking their collective butts so they needed to restore their alliance with the federation. But then again so has been the alliance between the Jaffa and the Tauri.

Yeah because Gowron had a Founder whispering in his ear for years.

Point is both sides have supremacists and we have seen this with Gorkon when he attacked Cardassia and DS9 itself and with the Jaffa that used the Dakara weapon to kill everyone in a planet that had converted to the Ori just because they could.

His name is Gowron, that is the bug-eyed freaking looking guy in TNG. Gorkon is the Chancellor from ST:VI.

And once again, Gowron went on his little rampage because he had a Founder whispering in his ear for years.

The Corporal wrote:

PunkMaister wrote:

His name is Gowron, that is the bug-eyed freaking looking guy in TNG. Gorkon is the Chancellor from ST:VI.

And once again, Gowron went on his little rampage because he had a Founder whispering in his ear for years.

Really now? Because even after Odo uncovered the Changeling that had Gowron's ear he still continued the war against the federation to the bitter end. In fact had Worf not killed him in a duel he would have never made peace or forge an alliance of any sort with any of the powers in the Alpha quadrant so yes Gowron gave the Changeling his ear but only because it fed him what he already felt in his heart anyway. Gowron was a supremacist pig end of story.

PunkMaister wrote:
Really now? Because even after Odo uncovered the Changeling that had Gowron's ear he still continued the war against the federation to the bitter end. In fact had Worf not killed him in a duel he would have never made peace or forge an alliance of any sort with any of the powers in the Alpha quadrant so yes Gowron gave the Changeling his ear but only because it fed him what he already felt in his heart anyway. Gowron was a supremacist pig end of story.

WTF are you talking about? Worf killed Gowron long after the Feds and the Klingons became allies again. In fact the rift between the two lasted one year until the Cardies joined the Dominion.

The Corporal wrote:

PunkMaister wrote:
Really now? Because even after Odo uncovered the Changeling that had Gowron's ear he still continued the war against the federation to the bitter end. In fact had Worf not killed him in a duel he would have never made peace or forge an alliance of any sort with any of the powers in the Alpha quadrant so yes Gowron gave the Changeling his ear but only because it fed him what he already felt in his heart anyway. Gowron was a supremacist pig end of story.

WTF are you talking about? Worf killed Gowron long after the Feds and the Klingons became allies again. In fact the rift between the two lasted one year until the Cardies joined the Dominion.

Pardon me for not remembering the exact chain of events but the fact is that Gowron was not exactly cooperating with the alliance either which is what led to his demise at the hands of Worf. He was always a reluctant ally in the Dominion war. If he could have had his way he would have gone at it alone and waged war against the dominion and all other remaining Alpha quadrant powers. That was just his nature.

PunkMaister wrote:
Pardon me for not remembering the exact chain of events but the fact is that Gowron was not exactly cooperating with the alliance either which is what led to his demise at the hands of Worf. He was always a reluctant ally in the Dominion war. If he could have had his way he would have gone at it alone and waged war against the dominion and all other remaining Alpha quadrant powers. That was just his nature.

BS. What lead to him getting killed by Worf was taking direct control of Klingon Forces and squandering them. He did that to undermine Martok in the eyes of the Klingon people because he was afraid Martok was gunning for his job.

The Corporal wrote:BS. What lead to him getting killed by Worf was taking direct control of Klingon Forces and squandering them. He did that to undermine Martok in the eyes of the Klingon people because he was afraid Martok was gunning for his job.

Which proves my my point that he was a power hungry megalomaniac.

PunkMaister wrote: Which proves my my point that he was a power hungry megalomaniac.

Really. Because I don't see that in your post at all.