2046 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:59 am
That version of the bridge didn't even survive into production of "The Cage" . . . remember the initial shot that goes in through the top? The rectangle isn't there.
You can see the one on the front of the bridge dome in the Mirror version of the ship which here is essentially the 2nd Pilot version. The even older marking on the bridge may just be a sensor palette, but it is interesting that it just happened to align closely with where the screen is:
Also of note, none of the ship windows are lit, and the 11 foot model did not have any lights and did not get any until it was heavily modified for the second pilot.
As I responded when I first saw this a month ago, "Nice try, but calling a random thing a portal rather begs the question. You'll recall that ST3 has the forward dorsal registry light come on when they enter the bridge to steal the ship … that still wasn't a window, either.
That is very different in location just under the bridge dome proper:
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/disp ... play_media
And it is clearly a floodlight for the registry given how it illuminates it quite nicely and is not on at all when we know without any doubt that the bridge lights on the inside are very much on and would be visible through it regardless.
Not true. He didn't even know the crew was "suspended" and not dead until Flint told him so. There's no evidence he could see inside at all.
The lights were on in the ship. Obviously there were working systems. The viewscreen was obviously one of them.
Go watch the scene again. All the the blinking lights on the consoles are also frozen just like the crew as are the little side blinking indicator lights under the "viewscreen" itself. It doesn't matter what Kirk thinks is the state of the crew, dead or alive, we see him appearing to look inside. Granted, he could be looking in through the dome, but the viewscreen shows him eye-level with it.
At the Klingon colony? I just watched that battle, and saw nothing of the sort.
My mistake, sorry. I mixed up the Mirror NX-01 firing on the Tholians in "In a Mirror, Darkly" with the other battle:
The story has no way out. They've established the ability to grow spores in minutes and control the effects. The only way to explain Voyager not going home immediately is the lack of a spinny saucer.
The potentially multiverse-ending use of the spore drive is reason enough, even if you can grow more of it locally.
Additionally, any alien species that doesn't use it to win a war is equally improbable.
See above.
Garth called it mutiny, and Kirk threatens that the Enterprise crew will also resist, but I wouldn't take Garth's word for it. He was probably relieved of command properly.
Garth isn't the
Enterprise's captain, and is no longer a flag rank officer. When he tries to pass himself off as Kirk he failed, and later doesn't even try to do so to Scotty and the crew on the ship once the first attempt failed.
That wasn't mutiny.
Huh, yes it was. Here's the exchange towards the end:
DECKER: You are speaking to a senior officer, Kirk.
KIRK: Give me Spock.
DECKER: I told you, I am in command here, according to every rule in the book, Captain. Anything you have to say at all, you will say to me.
[Constellation Auxiliary Control]
KIRK: There's only one thing I want to say to you, Commodore. Get my ship out of there.
[Bridge]
KIRK [OC]: Mister Spock, ship status.
SPOCK: Commodore.
DECKER: Down here. (the arm of the Captain's chair)
SPOCK: Warp drive out. Deflector shields down. Transporter under repair. We are on emergency impulse power.
[Constellation Auxiliary Control]
KIRK: How long to repair warp drive?
SPOCK [OC]: At least one solar day.
[Bridge]
SPOCK: At our present rate of consumption, we'll exhaust our impulse power long before then.
SULU: It's gaining on us, sir.
[Constellation Auxiliary Control]
KIRK: Take evasive action, Mister Sulu.
[Bridge]
DECKER: I told you, I am in command here and I will give the orders, Captain. We're going to turn and attack.
KIRK [OC]: Not with my ship, you don't.
[Constellation Auxiliary Control]
KIRK: Mister Spock, relieve Commodore Decker immediately. That's a direct order.
[Bridge]
DECKER: You can't relieve me and you know it. According to regulations
[Constellation Auxiliary Control]
KIRK: Blast regulations! Mister Spock, I order you to assume command on my personal authority as Captain of the Enterprise.
[Bridge]
SPOCK: Commodore Decker, you are relieved of command.
DECKER: I don't recognise your authority to relieve me.
SPOCK: You may file a formal protest with Starfleet Command, assuming we survive to reach a Starbase. But you are relieved. Commodore. I do not wish to place you under arrest.
DECKER: You wouldn't dare. (Spock signals the guards forward) You're bluffing.
SPOCK: Vulcans never bluff.
DECKER: No. No, I don't suppose that they do. Very well, Mister Spock. The Bridge is yours.
SPOCK: Captain, I have assumed command.
KIRK [OC]: Good. Now, Mister Spock
SPOCK: One moment, sir. Commodore. I believe you are scheduled for medical examination. Mister Montgomery.
MONTGOMERY: Sir.
SPOCK: You will accompany the commodore to Sickbay.
MONTGOMERY: Aye, sir. Commodore?
(They leave.)
SPOCK: Mister Sulu, change course. Seven zero mark two one.
SULU: Mark twenty one, sir.
SPOCK: Captain, we are taking an evasive course back to you. We will try to stay ahead of the object until we can transport you aboard.
Previous to that:
DECKER: Mister Spock, I'm officially notifying you that I'm exercising my option under regulations as a Starfleet Commodore, and that I am assuming command of the Enterprise.
SPOCK: You have the right to do so, but I would advise against it.
DECKER: That thing must be destroyed.
SPOCK: You tried to destroy it once before, Commodore. The result was a wrecked ship and a dead crew.
DECKER: I made a mistake then. We were too far away. This time I'm going to hit it with full phasers at point-blank range.
SPOCK: Sensors show the object's hull is solid neutronium. A single ship cannot combat it.
DECKER: Mister Spock, that will be all. You have been relieved of command. Don't force me to relieve you of duty as well.
MCCOY: You can't let him do this, Spock.
DECKER: Doctor, you are out of line.
MCCOY: So are you, sir. Well, Spock?
SPOCK: Unfortunately, Starfleet Order 104, Section B, leaves me no alternative. Paragraph 1A clearly states
MCCOY: To blazes with regulations! You can't let him take command when you know he's wrong!
SPOCK: If you can certify Commodore Decker medically or psychologically unfit for command, I can relieve him under Section C.
MCCOY: I'll certify that right now.
SPOCK: You'll also be asked to produce your medical records to prove it.
MCCOY: Now, you know I haven't had time to run an examination on him.
SPOCK: Then your statement would not be considered valid.
DECKER: You may leave the Bridge, Doctor.
MCCOY: What about the Captain? We can't leave
DECKER: Doctor, you may leave the Bridge.
MCCOY: Spock, do something!
DECKER: Mister Spock knows his duty under regulations, Doctor. Do you? (McCoy leaves) Hard about, helmsman. Course thirty two degrees, mark ten. Deflectors at full power. Ready on main phaser banks.
SULU: Aye, aye, sir.
So you see that by the technical definitions as established by the episode itself, this is a mutiny. They may have been exonerated for it later, but it is a legal by in-universe standards of the time mutiny.
-Mike