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Re: Star Wars technology mechanics and physics background -n

Post by Mike DiCenso » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:26 am

Well duh, Praeo. Guess you gave up the mantle of moderator too soon. ;-)
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Re: Star Wars technology mechanics and physics background -n

Post by mojo » Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:47 am

i found his argument sort of elegant. at least i hadn't already heard it forty times, and it made sense. i liked it's curves. >:)

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Post by Praeothmin » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:12 pm

mojo wrote:i found his argument sort of elegant. at least i hadn't already heard it forty times, and it made sense. i liked it's curves. >:)
Yeah, but it's almost word for word an argument KSW made earlier here... :)

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Post by Mike DiCenso » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:56 pm

Thankfully minus the insults when people start questioning it.
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Post by Lucky » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:11 am

Mike DiCenso wrote:Thankfully minus the insults when people start questioning it.
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You guys needed to wait until that post to recognize KSW's style?

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Post by Praeothmin » Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:33 pm

No, I needed until that post to have unmitigated proof...
The name itself told me who he was, but that wasn't proof at all...
His debating style, more subdued this time, also reeked of KSW, but again, there was a slight difference, so no proof...
Until this very explanation... :)

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Re: Star Wars technology mechanics and physics background -n

Post by KSW » Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:34 am

Lucky wrote:
You're using the extended universe which is not aloud in this thread.
Where?
1) The G-Canon quotes say the Superlaser turns matter to energy through a chain reaction.
Then you'll have no problem supplying them.
2) The Superlaser just makes thing disappear in a firery looking cloud.
Like a volcano erupting, for a planet. That's the sudden release of heat and pressure to a lower state.
Meanwhile smaller objects like capships would be overwhelmed by the superlaser's effects.
It's best to just say the superlaser is magictech, and move on.
Then why not say everything in SW is magic, and Kirk could just click his heels together and wish his way back to Iowa?

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Post by Lucky » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:12 am

MauriceWindows wrote: Where?
First off, what the Death Stars are powered by does not matter, and to my knowledge we are never specifically told what powers the Death Stars. Going only by G and T canon we only know that a form of fusion reactor is the standard generator for everything in Star Wars, but the Death Stars are not standard. They could be powered by scaled up Star Wars fusion reactors, or they could just as easily be powered by sacrificing virgins.

Second, you talk about mysterious "tachyonic hyperdrive" technology, but that is not from G or T level canon. The only place i recall such a thing is from the EU/C and lower canon.

Then you made a claim about the superlaser = weaponized hyperdrive, but there is no connection made between the two in G or T levels canon as far as I know.

You claimed that hyperdrives shorten distances, and shrink/distort distances through hyperspace. We see no evidence of that in Star Wars. What we see is that Hyperspace is not real/normal space.

You need to provide the information from G and to a lesser extent T levels of canon instead of speculation in this thread.
MauriceWindows wrote: Then you'll have no problem supplying them.
They have already been provided. You ignored them, and no conflicting evidence was provided.

MauriceWindows wrote: Like a volcano erupting, for a planet. That's the sudden release of heat and pressure to a lower state.
Meanwhile smaller objects like capships would be overwhelmed by the superlaser's effects.
Except everything destroyed by the Death Stars including the Death Stars all have the same fireball, and material just disappears.

Your theory at the very least needs some tweaking, but this is not the thread for that.
MauriceWindows wrote: Then why not say everything in SW is magic, and Kirk could just click his heels together and wish his way back to Iowa?
You do realize literal magic exists in Star Wars?

The fact of the matter is we in the real world have an incomplete understanding of physics, and impossible things happen in fiction. To say that X and Y are the only ways to cause Z is foolishness. We just don't know how they achieve the end result often in Science fiction, and many times that result is seemingly impossible.

James T. Kirk and Mike Wong have nothing to do with this topic.

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Re: Star Wars technology mechanics and physics background -n

Post by theta_pinch » Sun May 11, 2014 10:45 pm

Blaster operation:
1. release a small amount of gas into an ionization chamber.
2. Ionize the gas and send it to the barrel of the blaster.
3. Accelerate the plasma using the electromotive force.
4. Induce a magnetic field in the plasma that changes over time.

The magnetic field induces an electrical field which induces a magnetic field which induces an electrical field which.......etc, etc, etc. It produces a self-perpetuating magnetic field to contain the plasma.

5. Bolt hits target, with enough energy it might go straight through the target or it will explode on the target.

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Post by theta_pinch » Sun May 11, 2014 10:53 pm

HYPER DRIVE

The hyper drive operate using quantum entanglement to produce a micro-wormhole, it expands the wormhole over the ship with negative energy. It then uses it's engines to propel its' "bubble" of space through a higher dimension known as hyperspace.

In hyperspace distances are shorter; this allows ships to travel at enormous speeds to a 3 dimensional observer but a higher dimensional observer would observe a far lower speed. THAT'S how you cheat relativity.

Incidentally this could in theory be used to make something bigger on the inside by forming a sort of pocket of space inside of hyperspace.

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Post by theta_pinch » Sun May 11, 2014 11:25 pm

Picard wrote:Lots of magnetics, then.

Now, we know that TL bolts are basically plasma. How are they contained? I'd also expect them to be quite dense, far more so than usual plasma (which is gas).
They are contained by use of a self-perpetuating electromagnetic field caused by a changing magnetic field induced in the plasma presumably at the end of the barrel of the blaster.

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Post by 359 » Mon May 12, 2014 12:48 am

The magnetic field induces an electrical field which induces a magnetic field which induces an electrical field which.......etc, etc, etc. It produces a self-perpetuating magnetic field to contain the plasma.
So... A laser? :)

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Re: Star Wars technology mechanics and physics background -n

Post by theta_pinch » Mon May 12, 2014 11:49 am

359 wrote:
The magnetic field induces an electrical field which induces a magnetic field which induces an electrical field which.......etc, etc, etc. It produces a self-perpetuating magnetic field to contain the plasma.
So... A laser? :)
That's where I got the idea from.

Edit: Perhaps that explains the usage of the word laser as slang for a blaster or turbolaser.

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