I do not care what people believe as long as they do not try to force it into the classrooms that are for science facts so they can corrupt young minds. People can believe in any superstition they like be it bronze age or modern but at the point any faction attempts to insinuate itself as the one truth rather than a unsupported belief system it becomes a problem.Admiral Breetai wrote: right and you and I may accept it to be correct based on the evidence presented.
We however, have absolutely no right to impose our convictions on them..when their actions in this regard are one of the chief things we decry as wrong and not moral.
And that is why religion belongs with the other superstitions in the class for them and not in the science class because the science class is for things that are proven and have the potential to be dis-proven as more knowledge is gained. Superstitions like religion starts by claiming to know the truth and any knowledge gained has to fit with it or is discarded or contorted in order for it to seemingly fit (see apologetics).and it neither disproves the existence of a supreme being or..said supreme entities possible "will" giving direction to the evolutionary process
Oh and the material concerning comparing our genome clearly shows that we share a common ancestor with the great apes, we have 46 chromosomes while the great apes have 48 and we learned that 2 have fused so that we have 46 and scientists found those that fused proving on the genetic level we are related.
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This means that either humans and the other great apes come from a common ancestor or the magic designer is trying to deceive us into believing that we do.
See above regarding trying to shoehorn it into the science classroom and redefine science.again I think it's preposterous the Christian take on things but I'm not going to challenge a persons world views or seem then as unreasonable because only on the basis that they choose to go on faith
I have no problem with state ran schools having a class for religion and other superstitions as long as they do not call it a science class. In fact you cannot learn world history appreciate great literature like Shakespeare without knowing something about a variety of religions.This should never have been allowed I agree - A state run school should teach only the scientific method
Christians only, Muslims only, Wikka only etc etc?.now that being said any private institution that wants to teach whatever so long as it isn't treasonous is welcomed to do so
Do you really see that as a good idea and if that why not white only private schools or even better white Christians only schools, or black Muslims only schools for those who have that "world view".
If you answered "yes" take a look at Mecca where they have gone to the point of making it a actual LAW that nobody but a Muslims can enter Mecca because a bronze age highly interpreted and rewritten scripture says so.
After that take a look at their contribution to the knowledge of mankind or how many Nobel prizes or other similar awards for the advancement of human knowledge and understanding have come out of that part of the world. A look at the level of human rights will give you a idea as well as their are still women being found guilty of witchcraft (meaning they confessed after being flogged shitless) and sentenced to being stoned to death.
That is also why universities etc are accredited or not as even liars like Kent Hovind can get a fake PhD from one of these absurd religious diploma mills for a few dollars. Then tout it around to the ignorant by calling himself Dr Hovind and even having himself called Dr Hovind in the phone book, fyi his supposed dissertation was looked into and so was the place he got his PhD and both were a joke.
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sure they should not have the ability to influence local and state policy I agree but you made it is as though it was the duty of every Atheist to actively destroy religion and that's equally presumptuous and reckless
I am not attacking a single religion as i am against them all, however in this particular instance i am defending against one that is actively trying to replace fact with superstition and ignorance.I also happen to believe if you're going to attack religion you can't be PC about it..you need to go after Islam, Buddhism. Christianity, Judaism ,Hinduism, Neo Pagan religions
in fact you know what? When was the last time any of us internet Atheist had a good Wiccan pwning?
When was the last time a Wiccan organization manipulated representatives to be on school boards so they could rewrite the definition of science specifically to allow their particular superstition to be preached as science.
Actually the last wiccan pwning in the west was when dogmatically sexually repressed Christians decided to barbecue women among other unpleasant things after being tortured into confessing to be wiccans.
Again it is Christianity that is doing the attacking so it is Christianity that is being defended against. Science truth and fact do not care what superstition you choose to follow but it does care when you try to claim that superstition is science truth and fact.I mean seriously? Why is it always Christianity! Get 'em boys!! I miss the good ol'days of equal opportunity assault on value systems dammit!