New Theoritical Model Eliminates Barriers to Time Travel

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New Theoritical Model Eliminates Barriers to Time Travel

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      • New Theoritical Model Eliminates Barriers to Time Travel

A Technion-Israel Institute of Technology physicist has developed a theoretical model of a time machine that could enable future generations to travel into the past. In his paper published in the July issue of Physical Review, noted time-travel theorist Professor Amos Ori provides practical solutions to a number of criteria long seen by other experts as obstacles to the realization of time travel.

Ori's theory is actually a set of mathematical equations describing hypothetical conditions that, if established, could lead to the formation of a time machine, technically known as "closed time-like curves."

Previous theories addressing time travel are well grounded in Einstein's General Relativity theory. Renowned physicist Stephen Hawking has called time travel "an important subject for research," but has also proposed some of the strongest challenges to the concept. General Relativity states, among other things, that the gravitational pull of large objects such as planets can actually bend time and space. Time travel research is based on bending space-time so far that the time lines actually bend back on themselves to form a loop.

"We know that bending does happen all the time, but we want the bending to be strong enough and to take a special form where the lines of time make closed loops," says Ori. "We are trying to find out if it is possible to manipulate space-time to develop in such a way."

While the possibility of time travel has never been eliminated, scientists have identified a number of physical challenges, including the perceived need for some form of exotic matter with negative density. Such matter is predicted by quantum field theory to exist, though only in quantities too small for the construction of a time machine.

In a 2004 paper, Ori outlined a set of conditions that would allow for the creation of a time loop without the need for exotic matter. That theory called for the time loop to form as a donut-shaped vacuum, inside which time would curve back on itself, so that a person traveling around the loop might be able to go further back in time with each lap. A sphere containing non-exotic, but unidentified matter, would in turn envelop the loop.

Ori's latest work eliminates the need for that unidentified matter. His new calculations show that the envelope can in fact be filled with dust, a simple modeling of which is used regularly in theoretical physics, while still allowing for the evolution of a time machine.

Ori also addresses the possibility of the initial conditions forming a point of infinite gravitational field that no one could pass (instead of a time travel loop). His current paper outlines a more robust system that would prevent such an occurrence. "The internal core is now mathematically protected," says Ori, "and it is easy to show that no irregularity could penetrate it." The paper also more thoroughly defines the required spherical envelope.

Ori says serious questions remain about the overall stability of a time machine. His own calculations - done in collaboration with Technion Ph.D. student Dana Levanony - and those of other physicists, suggest that the evolution of a time machine would be dependent on a very narrow range of initial conditions that might be difficult - or even impossible - to achieve. He is also working to show ways such a configuration could be achieved.

"If the proper initial conditions were achieved, the time machine would evolve on its own without any further intervention," says Ori, of the Technion Faculty of Physics. "It can be likened to shooting a ship with a cannon. Once the cannon is aimed properly and fired, the cannonball hits the ship on its own, driven solely by the laws of physics."

"The machine is space time itself," he explains. "If we were to create an area with a warp like this in space that would enable time lines to close on themselves, it might enable future generations to return to visit our time. We, however, could not return to previous ages because our predecessors did not create this infrastructure for us."

The Technion-Israel Institute of Technology is Israel's leading science and technology university. Home to the country's winners of the Nobel Prize in science, it commands a worldwide reputation for its pioneering work in nanotechnology, computer science, biotechnology, water-resource management, materials engineering, aerospace and medicine. The majority of the founders and managers of Israel's high-tech companies are alumni. Based in New York City, the American Technion Society is the leading American organization supporting higher education in Israel, with 17 offices around the country.
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      • Israeli Researcher Develops New Theoretical Model of Time Machine

Technion Israel Institute of Technology researchers have developed a theoretical model of a time machine that, in the distant future, could possibly enable future generations to travel into the past. An article on this research was published last week in the scientific journal Physical Review.

“In order to travel back in time, the spacetime structure must be engineered appropriately,” explains Prof. Amos Ori of the Technion’s Faculty of Physics. “This is what Einstein’s theory of general relativity deals with. It says that spacetime can be flat. That is – it has a trivial, simple structure. But it can also be curved with various configurations. According to the theory of relativity, the essence of gravitational fields is in the curving of spacetime. The theory of relativity also defines how space is curved and how this curvature develops over time.”

The main question is – if according to the principles of curvature development in the theory of relativity - can a time machine be created? In other words – can we cause spacetime to curve in such a way as to enable travel back in time? Such a journey requires a significant curvature of spacetime, in a very special form.

Traveling back in time is actually closing time-like curves so we can go back to an event at which we were present in the past. In flat space, it is not possible to close curves and go back in time. In order for closed time-like curves to exist, there has to be a curvature of a specific form on spacetime.

The question Prof. Ori is investigating is – do the laws of gravity permit the development of spacetime with the required curvature (closed time-like curves)? In the past, scientists raised a number of objections to this possibility.

Prof. Ori is proposing a theoretical model for spacetime that could develop into a time machine. The model overcomes some of the questions, which, until now, scientists have not succeeded in solving. One of the difficult claims against a time machine was that, in order to create a time machine, it would be necessary for it to contain material with negative density. And since we do not have such material – and it is also not clear if the laws of nature enable the existence of such material in the quantities required - it is not possible to build a time machine. Now, Prof. Ori comes along and proposes a theoretical model that does not require material with negative density. The model that he proposes is, essentially, a vacuum space that contains a region field with standard positive density material.

“The machine is spacetime itself,” he explains. “Today, if we were to create a time machine – an area with a warp like this in space that would enable time lines to close on themselves – it might enable future generations to return to visit our time. We, apparently, cannot return to previous ages because our predecessors did not create this infrastructure for us.”

Prof. Ori emphasizes that we still do not have the technology to control gravitational fields at will, despite the fact that the theoretical principles of how to do this exist. “The model that we developed at the Technion is a significant step but there still remains a number of non-trivial open questions,” he stresses. “It may be that some of these questions also will not be solved in the future. This is still not clear.”

As an example, he brings up the problem of instability according to which in spacetime with a time machine there could be disturbances with increasing strength so that spacetime would be disrupted to such an extent that it would cancel out the time machine. Prof. Ori, one of the few scientists in the world investigating this issue, hopes that continued research will present a clearer picture with respect to these questions.

Source: Technion Israel Institute of Technology
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Post by Cpl Kendall » Sat Aug 18, 2007 3:33 pm

So we could build a time machine but could only go back in time to a period that had a time machine already built. A pity, that could really settle the science/creation BS once and for all. Kind of like that Twilight Zone episode where they go back in time and step on the butterfly and wind up altering history.

Anyone else thinking of a real-life Guardian of Forever when they read this? "Many such journey's are possible, let me be your guide".

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Post by GStone » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:14 pm

That doesn't make sense at all. If the machine is space-time itself, then it wouldn't be limited to just when time travel capabilities first were possible. It's be limited to when space-time first came into existence. It makes no sense that it would be limited to just when the nonmachine parts were available. Not unless he's talking about requiring some kind of 'stargate' contraption. I would need to read what he came up with to be sure, but he isn't making any sense with the limitation. Even if the limit is based on the requiring the 'donut', who says the donut must start and end with 2011 or whatever year it is the thing starts working in. His description is analagous to having put down pavement. You can't drive on pavement unless it's been put down already, but that shouldn't be required either. If the point is to cause a warp in space to cause time travel, you shouldn't have to create a time travel subway.

Nevertheless, I think this is important.

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Post by Mr. Oragahn » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:24 pm

The guy's an Ori.

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Post by GStone » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:46 pm

Yes, I need him to make me an ascended one, too. :-P

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