Libertarian to Objectivist
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:41 am
From there.
The shoved Capitalism 5000 and the focus on identification at the basis of reality also is at odds with libertarianism, imho.
And if the universe exists without consciousness, clearly it won't mesh well with certain views that the creator of the universe knows everything and has full control over it.
Objectivism almost sounds to me like a contradiction, which can only be saved by how you define individual rights, and how you may want to relate this to human rights. Notably its application into a society seems to be a true mess.Tyralak wrote:You seem to have a very odd definition of what constitutes an appeal to authority. Libertarians generally have quite a bit of respect for the law, and most of the issues I debate are domestic in nature. So, when dealing with a domestic issue involving laws and regulations being passed, consideration of what the Constitution permits and doesn't permit is extremely important. Since you're in Germany, discussion of our constitution is not applicable. (hence why I said "not applicable here")
Also, one thing many people (especially those from SDN for some odd reason) seem to have trouble separating is Libertarianism vs. Objectivism. The two are NOT the same. They're ideological cousins, but they have a lot of differences. I like to think of Libertarianism as a more "human" form of minarchist thought, as opposed to the cold, selfish, completely social darwinism driven Objectivism. Ayn Rand had some very good ideas, but I find her world view too harsh and unyielding. Objectivism also REQUIRES atheism as a major part of it's philosophy. This means a huge portion of humanity is excluded. I feel government has it's place. Government is a tool that should be used wisely and sparingly. It should be targeted toward the things it does very well, and the things that it does inefficiently should be left to those who can handle them better. That way people are not overburdened with excessive taxation, and have less chance of the government becoming tyrannical and abusing it's people. I agree completely with General Washington when he said "Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
The shoved Capitalism 5000 and the focus on identification at the basis of reality also is at odds with libertarianism, imho.
And if the universe exists without consciousness, clearly it won't mesh well with certain views that the creator of the universe knows everything and has full control over it.