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"Freedom" dropped from WTC

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:10 pm
by Cocytus
The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the World Trade Center site, has dropped the name "Freedom Tower" from the site's tallest building, opting instead to call it simply "One World Trade Center."

The decision has drawn criticism from former governor George Pataki, who initially coined the appelation, and mayor Michael Bloomberg. In addition, Brooklyn senator Marty Golden is submitting legistaltion to Albany to make the name "Freedom Tower" permanent.

The only tenant signed so far to 1WTC is Vantone, a Chinese real estate corporation with ties to the Communist government. The PA denies any correlation with the name change.

At this point, I'm just anxious to see it built. But obviously, lots of people are invested in the idea of the new tower being the "Freedom Tower." I personally was more invested in it being the world's tallest, but Burj Dubai killed that idea right quick (along with about 10 other buildings). In the end, people will call it whatever they want to, though I'm happier with it just being the World Trade Center. "Freedom Tower" always sounded too political for me (and personally, I'm sick-and-goddamned tired of being treated to the idiotic strawman "you hate freedom" every time I disagree with a conservative). In summation, call it what you want PANYNJ, just be sure you get it built.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:58 pm
by Feldercarb
"Freedom Tower" was a pretty silly name IMO, the US went a little freedom happy after 9/11, naming things that had no connection to it "freedom". It always sounded like a superheros lair to me, like the Justice League or something.

I voted "who cares" simply because my preferred option, just renaming it "World Trade Center" wasn't there.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:04 pm
by Praeothmin
the US went a little freedom happy after 9/11, naming things that had no connection to it "freedom".
All the while reigning in the freedom of their own citizens under the "Patriot Act"...

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:09 pm
by Mr. Oragahn
The Tower of Ashagdur, or Erectile Ironstick of Ground Zero.

Re: "Freedom" dropped from WTC

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:51 pm
by ILikeDeathNote
Cocytus wrote: The decision has drawn criticism from former governor George Pataki, who initially coined the appelation, and mayor Michael Bloomberg.
Both of whom are morons. (personal opinion as opposed to verifiable fact, mind you)
The only tenant signed so far to 1WTC is Vantone, a Chinese real estate corporation with ties to the Communist government. The PA denies any correlation with the name change.
Ugh, China. I wish they would just go away sometimes.
Feldercarb wrote:"Freedom Tower" was a pretty silly name IMO, the US went a little freedom happy after 9/11, naming things that had no connection to it "freedom". It always sounded like a superheros lair to me, like the Justice League or something.
If you don't mind me saying, it was a side effect of the extreme jingoism that had swept our nation, the likes the world hadn't seen since at least WWII if not WWI.

Jingoism =/= Freedom or Freedom-loving

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:57 pm
by Narsil
Feldercarb wrote:"Freedom Tower" was a pretty silly name IMO, the US went a little freedom happy after 9/11, naming things that had no connection to it "freedom". It always sounded like a superheros lair to me, like the Justice League or something.
QUICKLY, ROBIN! TO THE FREEDOM TOWER!

*cue superhero television theme*

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:07 pm
by PunkMaister
Mr. Oragahn wrote:The Tower of Ashagdur, or Erectile Ironstick of Ground Zero.
Since you consider us to be the land of Mordor that does not surprise me in the slightest. poissibly cannot wait for the day when they wipes us orcs all out right?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:01 pm
by Feldercarb
PunkMaister wrote:
Since you consider us to be the land of Mordor that does not surprise me in the slightest. poissibly cannot wait for the day when they wipes us orcs all out right?
Has Mr. O actually stated that he hopes for the destruction of the US or is this just more exaggeration on your part?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:03 pm
by PunkMaister
Feldercarb wrote:
PunkMaister wrote:
Since you consider us to be the land of Mordor that does not surprise me in the slightest. poissibly cannot wait for the day when they wipes us orcs all out right?
Has Mr. O actually stated that he hopes for the destruction of the US or is this just more exaggeration on your part?
Hey exaggeration seems to be the name of the business around here so what the hell...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:14 pm
by Feldercarb
PunkMaister wrote:
Hey exaggeration seems to be the name of the business around here so what the hell...
Right...

Well perhaps if conservatives want to be taken a little more seriously on the internet then they should cut down on the exaggeration (mental disorders lol) and the tendency to make ridiculous claims about their opposition.

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:30 pm
by PunkMaister
Feldercarb wrote:
PunkMaister wrote:
Hey exaggeration seems to be the name of the business around here so what the hell...
Right...

Well perhaps if conservatives want to be taken a little more seriously on the internet then they should cut down on the exaggeration (mental disorders lol) and the tendency to make ridiculous claims about their opposition.
And thus the pot call the kettle black...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:45 pm
by Feldercarb
PunkMaister wrote: And thus the pot call the kettle black...
Of course what I said can't be applied to the other side right? Even though we are specifically talking about conservatives in this thread and therefore liberal behavior would be a tangent.

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:48 pm
by PunkMaister
Feldercarb wrote:
PunkMaister wrote: And thus the pot call the kettle black...
Of course what I said can't be applied to the other side right? Even though we are specifically talking about conservatives in this thread and therefore liberal behavior would be a tangent.
We are? Funny I thought this thread was about the possible name of the building that is to replace the twin towers ah, yes it's a thread about the hated US my bad, go on...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:24 pm
by Feldercarb
PunkMaister wrote:
We are? Funny I thought this thread was about the possible name of the building that is to replace the twin towers ah, yes it's a thread about the hated US my bad, go on...
We were, now we're talking about conservatives. But please continue to ignore the points addressed to you, it's far more entertaining.

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:58 pm
by Mike DiCenso
I don't see any reason why both Freedom and One World Trade Center can't be used for the new tower.
-Mike