The First 100 Days

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How do you rate Obama's performance thus far?

Great
2
18%
Good
2
18%
Fair
2
18%
Poor
2
18%
Terrible
3
27%
 
Total votes: 11

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Post by PunkMaister » Sun May 10, 2009 10:19 pm

Mr. Oragahn wrote:Strawman.
Present a better argument then because right now that is what it sounds like...


Mr. Oragahn wrote:Strawman.
Ypu have yet to present any convincing argument! Wow just because a Search engine gives you hits on unnoficial crap people write on the net does not make it true!
Mr. Oragahn wrote:He was above all a radical working with the CIA and even attending meetings in preparation to turmoil in Chechnya.
He was on FBI's list of most wanted since eons, well before 9/11, but was integrally supported in the shadows by several US governments.
You have probably also heard about Osama ending in some American hospital not long before 9/11, with American services knowing this, but letting him go nonetheless.
And more conspiracy BS that you found on the net and somehow because is on the net it makes it true!

Usama always loathed the US and the West in general we would not bwe caught dead atteniding any meeting of US or Western officials back then and most certainly not now. Did you forget how rich his family is? It was with his family's money that he went to Afghanistan and build underground tunnels and compounds in what became his refuge when the US came for him after 9/11 Tora Bora. Bit off course again you probably read that it was again those pesky evil Jews or (Shape shifting lizards) that were behind it all. The very fact that you try to dodge the issue says it all, sorry Mr O but you do sound like conspiracy nut.


Mr. Oragahn wrote:You don't have to go farther than your random search engine, type any combination of the following key words "Osama Laden captured killed murdered dead" to get the point.
It's more a problem of not knowing what to do about his case, officially.
He's stuff of legends now, in a way.
So you did a web found a bunch of unofficial unverified crap on the net and took it to be true? Wow!

Mr. Oragahn wrote:Because he's the evil mastermind behind 9/11, the reason for the ongoing Whore on Terror and so on? Isn't it just a bit obvious? But even the media are smart enough to know when to stop pulling the string before it snaps.
Actually he is a financier others came up with the plan and he endorsed it just FYI.
Mr. Oragahn wrote:Jews, Greys AND Shape Shifting Lizards.

*snip*
and
Mr. Oragahn wrote:*Snip*
Being dodgy is not going to help you...


Mr. Oragahn wrote:No, you obviously have a very poor understanding of anything.
I don't support Obama's socialism, which is just a way to nationalize fraudulent banks, soak up their toxic shit with taxpayers' much patriotic efforts (of course!), and then resell their resources to private parties for another round.
I don't really care for now about who owns what, except about who owns the right to produce and control money in the best interests of the people, and what orbits this tool.
I for one can only totally support the American Monetary Act, and the Transparency in the Creation of Wealth Act.
For now? What about long term?

Of all the things you have posted here I find myself only agreeing to the very last 2.

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Post by Mr. Oragahn » Mon May 11, 2009 10:25 pm

PunkMaister wrote:Present a better argument then because right now that is what it sounds like...
It is not up to me to rewrite my comment because you're entitled to make me say things I have not said.
Repeating this fallacy will force me to report your behaviour.
Mr. Oragahn wrote:Ypu have yet to present any convincing argument! Wow just because a Search engine gives you hits on unnoficial crap people write on the net does not make it true!
Examples...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -dead.html
http://mediamatters.org/research/200609140009 -- Bush giving a behind the scene different set of priorities regarding AQ's top terrorist leader. Which explains this.
Surely, without an enemy, their reason and logic die.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/ma ... .terrorism
Then we have Obama vowing to capture Usemi Bun Ladon.
Hey, they just don't know what the fuck to say about him nowadays.

Maybe he's on Mars now, who knows?
And more conspiracy BS that you found on the net and somehow because is on the net it makes it true!
He was said in CBS' D. Rather's article to be in a Pakistani military hospital the 10th of september 2001.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/ ... 5887.shtml
Pakistani military forces had close and good contacts with the Pentagon.

The other hospital incident, confirmed by French journal Le Figaro and some other famous English newspaper, had OBL in a Dubai hospital in july for several days, and that was not the first time, following former stas between 96 and 98. Ah, and the regular visits of a CIA agent.
Usama always loathed the US and the West in general we would not bwe caught dead atteniding any meeting of US or Western officials back then and most certainly not now. Did you forget how rich his family is? It was with his family's money that he went to Afghanistan and build underground tunnels and compounds in what became his refuge when the US came for him after 9/11 Tora Bora. Bit off course again you probably read that it was again those pesky evil Jews or (Shape shifting lizards) that were behind it all.
You forgot the Greys. I'm tired repeating it for you. Jews, Shape Shifting Lizards AND THE GREYS!!
The very fact that you try to dodge the issue says it all, sorry Mr O but you do sound like conspiracy nut.
I dodged the recognized financial wealth of his family and his help in building a military force? that's new.
Actually he is a financier others came up with the plan and he endorsed it just FYI.
That's not the official slogan.
For now? What about long term?

Of all the things you have posted here I find myself only agreeing to the very last 2.
There's hope for you.

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Post by Mr. Oragahn » Mon May 11, 2009 10:30 pm

I'd also point out that since your very first post in this thread, you kept ramming strawmen, false accusations based on sheer ignorance on your part and more stupid claims through your keyboard.

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