List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

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Re: List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

Post by User1663 » Thu May 10, 2012 12:49 pm

No, but considering that this particular thread is all about how EU sources apparently override other EU sources I don't think it's particularly relevant ATM.

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Re: List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

Post by Praeothmin » Thu May 10, 2012 1:36 pm

True... :)

Did he say why he considered the ICS as the reference in C-Canon?

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Re: List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

Post by User1663 » Thu May 10, 2012 10:27 pm

I don't think he needs to.

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Re: List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

Post by mojo » Fri May 11, 2012 2:43 am

welcome back!

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Re: List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

Post by User1663 » Fri May 11, 2012 1:46 pm

Um.....thanks?

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Re: List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

Post by Praeothmin » Fri May 11, 2012 2:29 pm

the atom wrote:I don't think he needs to.
Well, I think he does, considering the ICS does not match anything shown in the movies, or even TCW, except for the look and some vehicule descriptions...
So why would the ICS have any more value than any novel, if what it says doen't match with the visual evidence of the movies?

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Re: List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

Post by mojo » Fri May 11, 2012 8:21 pm

i can't believe we're doing this again.

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Re: List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

Post by User1663 » Fri May 11, 2012 11:26 pm

Praeothmin wrote:Well, I think he does,
Sadly, nobody at Lucasarts cares about what you or I think, and if they (the owners and operators of the franchise) say it is so, then I'm afraid (however illogical it may be) it is so. They aren't under some obligation to explain their motives to irate fans who like arguing over turbolaser yields.

If you really feel that this call is wrong, then take it up with Chee and get him to change his mind. Otherwise you're better off sitting down, shutting up, and accepting it like the rest of us.
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Re: List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

Post by mojo » Sat May 12, 2012 1:15 am

welcome back!

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Re: List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

Post by User1663 » Sat May 12, 2012 1:21 am

Well um....thanks....again....I guess?

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Re: List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

Post by mojo » Sat May 12, 2012 5:25 am

you're welcome!

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Re: List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

Post by mojo » Sat May 12, 2012 5:58 am

seriously, though, one of the most annoying things about swst for me (and what drove oragahn INSANE) was the fact that he would respond to 'hey, man, we've debated (insert point here) to death and this board is in agreement that (insert conclusion here), so without the benefit of new evidence or, at the very least, new arguments, further debate is pointless here at sfj' with 'i disagree with that conclusion, and i base my own conclusion on this evidence: (insert exact evidence which has just been stated to be useless as far as sfj is concerned).'

is this so hard to comprehend? why do we have to keep rebooting the same exact arguments and rebuttals for all eternity? what is the point? are we really doing the leland/lucas canon debate again? is the evidence for either side somehow more persuasive the 3,000,000,012th time you read it? jesus!

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Re: List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

Post by User1663 » Sat May 12, 2012 5:34 pm

mojo wrote:seriously, though, one of the most annoying things about swst for me (and what drove oragahn INSANE) was the fact that he would respond to 'hey, man, we've debated (insert point here) to death and this board is in agreement that (insert conclusion here), so without the benefit of new evidence or, at the very least, new arguments, further debate is pointless here at sfj' with 'i disagree with that conclusion, and i base my own conclusion on this evidence: (insert exact evidence which has just been stated to be useless as far as sfj is concerned).'

is this so hard to comprehend? why do we have to keep rebooting the same exact arguments and rebuttals for all eternity? what is the point? are we really doing the leland/lucas canon debate again? is the evidence for either side somehow more persuasive the 3,000,000,012th time you read it? jesus!
There difference here is that the person who runs Starwars canon has made a pretty recent and decisive ruling about the ICS firepower numbers that has just rendered nearly all EU quibbling and rationalizing (a.k.a this and nearly every other board's primary argument against ICS) totally irrelevant. This isn't the same argument/evidence. This is game over.

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Re: List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

Post by Khas » Sat May 12, 2012 5:51 pm

Despite the fact that the ICS is contradicted by just about every scene in the movies.

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Re: List of expanded universe sources incompatible with ICS

Post by User1663 » Sat May 12, 2012 6:08 pm

Well if you want to argue movies vs. ICS then that's fine, but otherwise go start another thread. This thread is about the rest of the EU vs. the ICS, which has been officially ruled in favour of the ICS as far as firepower is concerned.

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