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Who is the best lightsaber duelist

Obi-Wan Kenobi (in his prime)
6
46%
Yoda
6
46%
Anakin Skywalker (in his prime)
1
8%
Luke Skywalker
0
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Hyperspace

Post by Bambi » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:04 am

o.k. i don't know if anybody has said this but hyperspace is a lot faster than warp 9.6 (which means you could go 10,000 lightyears in 5 years, although that can only be held for 12 hours before the Enteprise would fall apart) by a long shot i've calculated it up and the star wars galaxy is only a tad bit smaller than our own galaxy(which is 100,000 lightyears) i cant remeber the exact number but it was around 90,000 lightyears. If at warp nine the NCC-1701 Enterprise D could not even get acroos the galaxy for many many many years, and yet with hyperspace Obi-Wan Kenobi can get from Coruscant to Utapau (which is over halfway across the galaxy) within days.

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Post by Socar » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:15 am

First off, could you tell us what you're using for evidence in this topic.

Second, I sure would like to see those calculations you did to determine that the SW galaxy is about 90,000 light-years. It doesn't do anyone much good to just list your conclusions without showing what you did to get there.

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Post by sonofccn » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:27 am

What does this thread have to do with the poll? If you don't mind me asking.

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Post by Nonamer » Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:39 am

I think there must be a mistake where the poll was meant for something else. Anyways, the obvious answer is that of course, hyperspace seems to be much faster. Virtually all transits seen in SW were momentary. Going from Tatoonie to Coruscant always seemed to be no more than a few days at best in the prequel trilogy, and nearly all other places in galaxy we rarely see transit scenes. It's probably since they have less screen time in a movie they won't burn off the screen time with boring transportation times at the very least. Of course, it's arguable that from a chronological point of view hyperspace isn't as fast as advertised by some: http://www.st-v-sw.net/STSWaotcparsec.html

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Post by Bambi » Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:46 am

okay i got the calculations from this program made by the lucasArts Entertainment Company called Behind the Magic and it gave a map of the star wars universe. it had the distance from hoth (on the outer rim of the bottom left corner of the galaxy) being somewhere around 95,000 lightyears from Yavin 4 (on the outer rim on the top right corner of the galaxy). also from Tatooine(bottom right) to Endor (top left) being around 80,000 somethin lightyears away and that is pretty close to the size of our galaxy.
and the Poll doesnt have any thing to do with the thread im was just wondering what people thought.

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Post by Bambi » Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:50 am

It was this same Program that i used on the Star Ships of SW on one of my other topics.

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Post by Jedi Master Spock » Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:15 am

Bambi wrote:and the Poll doesnt have any thing to do with the thread im was just wondering what people thought.
You might consider making it a separate thread next time; people can be easily confused.

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Post by AnonymousRedShirtEnsign » Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:51 am

I thought Warp 9 was around 20,000c as opposed to 9.6 being 2000c. Also Star Wars velocities are as inconsistent as Trek velocities. And about the poll, where is Mace Windu (since he's the best canon swordsman)?

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Post by Socar » Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:40 pm

AnonymousRedShirtEnsign wrote:I thought Warp 9 was around 20,000c as opposed to 9.6 being 2000c.
Tom Paris says in "The 37's" that Warp 9.9 is about 4 billion miles per second (21,400c).There's quite a difference though between Warp 9.9 and Warp 9.

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Post by Jedi Master Spock » Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:59 pm

Socar wrote:
AnonymousRedShirtEnsign wrote:I thought Warp 9 was around 20,000c as opposed to 9.6 being 2000c.
Tom Paris says in "The 37's" that Warp 9.9 is about 4 billion miles per second (21,400c).There's quite a difference though between Warp 9.9 and Warp 9.
And sometimes, warp 5 exceeds 30,000c, as in "Whispers."

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Post by Socar » Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:07 pm

Jedi Master Spock wrote:
Socar wrote:Tom Paris says in "The 37's" that Warp 9.9 is about 4 billion miles per second (21,400c).There's quite a difference though between Warp 9.9 and Warp 9.
And sometimes, warp 5 exceeds 30,000c, as in "Whispers."
And on the other side of the spectrum, we have "Bloodlines" which pegs Warp 9 at around 830c. How annoying. Has anyone ever compiled a complete list of the various warp velocities given?

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Post by Jedi Master Spock » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:38 pm

Socar wrote:
Jedi Master Spock wrote:
Socar wrote:Tom Paris says in "The 37's" that Warp 9.9 is about 4 billion miles per second (21,400c).There's quite a difference though between Warp 9.9 and Warp 9.
And sometimes, warp 5 exceeds 30,000c, as in "Whispers."
And on the other side of the spectrum, we have "Bloodlines" which pegs Warp 9 at around 830c. How annoying. Has anyone ever compiled a complete list of the various warp velocities given?
I've try to list all the warp velocities coming out of episodes and movies on my FTL travel pages, but I've probably missed some. IIRC, there's also a list, or list in progress, over on ST-v-SW.net.

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Re: Hyperspace

Post by Mike DiCenso » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:56 pm

Bambi wrote:o.k. i don't know if anybody has said this but hyperspace is a lot faster than warp 9.6 (which means you could go 10,000 lightyears in 5 years, although that can only be held for 12 hours before the Enteprise would fall apart) by a long shot i've calculated it up and the star wars galaxy is only a tad bit smaller than our own galaxy(which is 100,000 lightyears) i cant remeber the exact number but it was around 90,000 lightyears. If at warp nine the NCC-1701 Enterprise D could not even get acroos the galaxy for many many many years, and yet with hyperspace Obi-Wan Kenobi can get from Coruscant to Utapau (which is over halfway across the galaxy) within days.

What does this have to do with the poll?

Also, don't forget that the SW movie canon has contradicted the BTM CD information as Nonamer has already pointed out.

A few more datapoints to keep reminding the pro-Wars side about:

In "Obsession" [TOS2], the Enterprise does a trip across 1,000 light year to planet Tyco IV and then rendevouz on the return trip with the U.S.S. Yorktown in 48 hours. This requires at least a speed of 365,000c.

The Enterprise also races across 990 light years in "That Which Survives" [TOS3] in under 11 hours to rescue a stranded landing party from a dangerous alien planet. This requires 788,400c.

In "The Chase" [TNG6], Professor Galen marks out on a map of the Milky Way galaxy a route that a starship can traverse in "weeks". The distance outlined on the map would be somewhere between 35,000 and 40,000 light years. This means the E-D in charted territory can do more than 1 millionc, if we assume that by "weeks" Galen means 2 weeks, and there are no stops made anywhere along the way!
-Mike

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