Starfleet Jedi

Let's go for a collection of EU scans.



A spear lodges itself into the back of a stormtrooper.
Note the stormtrooper in the last case.





Claims have been made about the spears to defend the super armour claim.
For example, these spears are super dense, super solid or so.
Notice the broken spear in the man's chest. Considering that there were, at best, 8 stormtroopers firing at the alien rollin monkeys, and that the only trooper to be hit in that part of the body was the one from the first page, you can then observe that the spear was broken between the first and third pages.
A typical rambo stuff, a tough guy breaks the spear.
However, that pretty much negates the idea that the spear is super solid.



Just to show that the aliens aren't complete twats.



One stormtrooper gets impaled in the elbow, in the soft tissue section. Considering that the spear even go through the armour, this is not surprising.



A scan from another source, maybe the same comic issue or another part in the series.
A stormtrooper is impaled in his heart, and is likely dead.



A scan from somewhere. We recognize the first case, but the rest is new, so I don't know if it's a compilation or something else.
We get more spears impaling stormtroopers, more bleeding and broken spears.

The most curious claim I've heard at SDN was how the spears were super tough cause as we could see, they were lodged in the rock.
Uh-huh. Rock.
Nevermind if the scans show that this is nothing more than dried mud, which the imperial vehicles leave wheel trails in. Same colour as well.

Also notice the fine demonstration of the auto-sealing stormtrooper helmet. ;)

Neat. What's the deal with the funny symbols in the text bubbles? What language is that and why does it switch to english later?

Can they claim these don't count as "Official" EU since it's from another country(Or so i'm assuming)?

It's Russian.

Art doesn't look like it's amateur production, and comic books can be translated into another language :)

TheRedFear wrote:Neat. What's the deal with the funny symbols in the text bubbles? What language is that and why does it switch to english later?

Can they claim these don't count as "Official" EU since it's from another country(Or so i'm assuming)?

It's from Star Wars: Empire, if I recall. Official Dark Horse publishication or some such.

It's clear these aliens have superhuman strength, which would explain why they can lift those super dense wood pikes which are able to penetrate through rock... :)

Certain woods can be really tough, but considering that there are several broken spears to be found, we're not looking wankily strong.

Besides, as a defense for the stormtroopers, notice the lenght the aliens' arms.

That reminds me of the prehistoric weapons theorized (confirmed) which were spears propelled with an intermediary staff, to gain more bang for the bucks.

Mr. Oragahn wrote:That reminds me of the prehistoric weapons theorized (confirmed) which were spears propelled with an intermediary staff, to gain more bang for the bucks.

Yes, the ones I've seen were used by Australia's aborigenes.
I think they were able to gain 20, 25% distance with those "launchers"...

Praeothmin wrote:

Mr. Oragahn wrote:That reminds me of the prehistoric weapons theorized (confirmed) which were spears propelled with an intermediary staff, to gain more bang for the bucks.

Yes, the ones I've seen were used by Australia's aborigenes.
I think they were able to gain 20, 25% distance with those "launchers"...

And obviously, more velocity.
I'm not saying the aliens would throw their spears at flash speeds, but their longer ape arms would probably give them a small buff in comparison to human arms.

Mr. Oragahn wrote:I'm not saying the aliens would throw their spears at flash speeds, but their longer ape arms would probably give them a small buff in comparison to human arms.

I agreen that their "symian" arms would surely give them better throwing power (resulting in increased speed and distance) then similarily built humanoids.
But if you look closely, you'll notice that their muscle mass is absurdly small, so their throwing power probably ins't better then normal human tribal hunters.

Mr. Oragahn wrote:That reminds me of the prehistoric weapons theorized (confirmed) which were spears propelled with an intermediary staff, to gain more bang for the bucks.

Are you talking about atlatls?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlatl

Yes, those spear throwers.

These aliens get a better torque/moment (N m), with their arms which are roughly 2/3 longer than a human's arm (their arms even seem to be longer than that, because the aliens' legs are particularily short, which makes an overall impressive arm lenght regarding the whole body height).

This increases the radius from the elbow, and gives them higher torque.

Either way, I think this puts very real upper limits on ST armor, if you can calculate the amount of mechanical force that the alien natives can generate with those unusually long limbs, and assume that the spears are something naturally dense and heavy, like iron wood.
-Mike