Terrain Rebals DS9 Shatter mirror vrse first Death star

[Jasonb]

Terran Rebels have the all information that Rebel Alliance had the battle Yavin IV. When the Empire they have just finish last face off the Klingon and Cardassion Alliance in Mirror Universe.

Two fighters they have send against to destroy the turrets to allow Defiant class warship do fatal blow hit the Death star with the main defector dish blast it way to core blow the first Death star sky high.

How do you guys see it turn out that I see it turn out.

[Darth Spock]

Uh, I don't even.... Ok, well, I guess if the Terrans had as much intel as the Rebels did, and could make the necessary preparations to a photon torpedo... wait, what? The Defiant kills the DS with its deflector dish? Well, that sounds more like a "is the deflector dish powerful enough to overwhelm the shafts ray shield?" scenario.

It's too plot dependent, if you ask me. It would probably fail, like the deflector failed against the Borg in Best of Both Worlds. I think it would just "impact on the surface," and not set up a chain reaction. So they would instead have to improvise a torpedo to make a trench run by itself (none of those ships will fit), and blow the thing sky high (shouldn't that be 'star high'?). Sure, why not? The Death Stars are all hexed anyway, they always go boom right after their main gun goes on line.

[359]

So they would instead have to improvise a torpedo to make a trench run by itself (none of those ships will fit), and blow the thing sky high (shouldn't that be 'star high'?).

The funny thing about that is the trench run wasn't ever necessary from a geometry standpoint. Because if you look at the angle at which the torpedoes enter the Deathstar, both in the briefing and in the shots, the shaft is normal to the curvature of the sphere. Meaning one must simply line up from a distance and shoot down the hole. But perhaps there were too many weapons emplacements nearby to make that viable with proton torpedoes.

[Jasonb]

Will the Death star is about the same size as the Borg Cube. Fact USS Enterprise D main defector dish blast though the Borg cube if they not able to adapt did alternative timeline Star Trek TNG Parallels.

USS Enterprise D destroy Borg cube seconds not give time adapt on top that.

Main defector dish the Defiant class warship keep firing until blast down to core of the Death star not the Borg so they could not adapt. It might take 10 to 20 seconds maybe a minute.

[Khas]

Will the Death star is about the same size as the Borg Cube. Fact USS Enterprise D main defector dish blast though the Borg cube if they not able to adapt did alternative timeline Star Trek TNG Parallels.

USS Enterprise D destroy Borg cube seconds not give time adapt on top that.

Main defector dish the Defiant class warship keep firing until blast down to core of the Death star not the Borg so they could not adapt. It might take 10 to 20 seconds maybe a minute.

N.. NO. Just... no. A Borg cube is nowhere NEAR the size of the Death Star. A Borg cube is 3 kilometers on each side, while the Death Star is (depending on your source) either 120 or 160 kilometers in diameter. A Borg cube is a fly in comparison.

[Jasonb]

Ok the Death star something like 20 times the size of Borg Cube. USS Enterprise D had able do the entire job in three seconds before the Borg simple adapt timeline were it work. Rather maybe take 3 seconds it take minute and 120sec. The point remains the Death star still blow to space dust. When final reach core. Would reason to attack the bull me up port simple because if blast ray shield everything else go up flame quickly. Need us few miles past were ray shield and big part that port was.

[Darth Spock]

Will the Death star is about the same size as the Borg Cube. Fact USS Enterprise D main defector dish blast though the Borg cube if they not able to adapt did alternative timeline Star Trek TNG Parallels.

USS Enterprise D destroy Borg cube seconds not give time adapt on top that.

Main defector dish the Defiant class warship keep firing until blast down to core of the Death star not the Borg so they could not adapt. It might take 10 to 20 seconds maybe a minute.

N.. NO. Just... no. A Borg cube is nowhere NEAR the size of the Death Star. A Borg cube is 3 kilometers on each side, while the Death Star is (depending on your source) either 120 or 160 kilometers in diameter. A Borg cube is a fly in comparison.

Yeah, when I first read that I was like:

Ok the Death star something like 20 times the size of Borg Cube.

So, cool, that's out of the way now. Although it should be more like 40+ times, but, whatever.

USS Enterprise D had able do the entire job in three seconds before the Borg simple adapt timeline were it work. Rather maybe take 3 seconds it take minute and 120sec. The point remains the Death star still blow to space dust. When final reach core. Would reason to attack the bull me up port simple because if blast ray shield everything else go up flame quickly. Need us few miles past were ray shield and big part that port was.

I still say the deflector dish is too much of a tech-tweak of the week plot device, but, OK. Still the problem with this is, even if it could work, the scenario has the Defiant, which is a bit larger than Leia's ship, sitting, or else flying in a straight line, above the Death Star. Under it's magnetic field. With half the power of the Imperial star fleet worth of guns on the station's surface. How long is the Defiant supposed to last? Is this a suicide mission? I still vote for modifying a torpedo to make the run itself.

Speaking of which:

The funny thing about that is the trench run wasn't ever necessary from a geometry standpoint. Because if you look at the angle at which the torpedoes enter the Deathstar, both in the briefing and in the shots, the shaft is normal to the curvature of the sphere. Meaning one must simply line up from a distance and shoot down the hole. But perhaps there were too many weapons emplacements nearby to make that viable with proton torpedoes.

Yeah, I can't find a good reason for the trench run either. Sure, maybe a straight shot on the shaft would have been under too much fire. But the length of the run down the trench, it doesn't make sense. I wondered if maybe there where shields over part of the trench that made that the only entry point, but no, if that were the case, Wedge couldn't have left, Han couldn't have fired in, and Vader couldn't have been flung out. I got nothin'.

[Jasonb]

Two ways over come the turrent first is just use the compture just go fast take them out with the phaser not give gun crew time to response. Another response is to use photon torpedoes clear the path all together. Blast them before in range.Amount information Rebel had if they had torpedoes need could done that but they did not. Both case us computer to do it.

Then us the main defector dish as weapon blast the escort vent blast way to the Death star core. There goes the Death star itself.

[Sideswipe]

They could have also flown right up to the exhaust port and just hovered right in front of it to line up the perfect shot.

[2046]

All indications are that the exhaust port was connected to a long, straight tube. If so, you could simply park outside the Death Star's weapons range and insert a phaser beam from afar, assuming the magnetic field wouldn't cause an issue.

Given the accuracy concerns of Malcolm Reed in "Fight or Flight"[ENT1], when a 0.02% (three meter) inaccuracy on a target was grounds for him to have a panic attack, I'd wager Enterprise NX-01 could take care of it, if they had all the intel. And it would be fun to see them trying to get in range.

[Jasonb]

First how strong is the ray shield. X-wing did not have energy weapons power needed. Millinian Falcon may different. On other hand Han SOla able get Falcon few problems. Suggestion just ran the guns all together simple used speed.

Rebal fighter took must of them out.

Defiant class warship could do the same thing. Fact tube one area other Defiant get exsort vent fire the main defector dish down Death star throat. While phaser might do the job as will no realistic debate if Defiant class warship main defector dish would. If the beam narrow enough that is. Again everything have left the computer order get there one piece. Since they use same tactic Han Sole used simple run the guns.