Kane Starkiller wrote:Mr. Oragahn wrote:I wonder what kind of evidence would need to be produced. We saw how far the fleet extended on screen.
Does anyone read my posts? I already pointed out several times that ROTJ novel states that rebel fleet extends beyond human vision.
See, you do it again.
You ignore my already given answer to your question:
Who is like God arbour wrote:Kane Starkiller wrote:Who is like God arbour wrote:We could see in chapter 30 of the movie the whole fleet of the Alliance, as they have jumped to hyperspeed. That allone would be enough to contradict your quote from the ROTJ novel. And we could see the battle at Endor out of the windows from the chamber of the Emperor.
Maybe you want to bother to provide evidence, that there were more ships, than commonly assumed?
How can it contradict the novel which says that more ships extend BEYOND HUMAN VISION? Therefore we COULDN'T see it all in the films.
Because, at this time, the fleet was in movement. You know, that if I stand at the locomotive of a train and can't see at the same moment the end of the train, I can regardless count the wagons, when the train is driving past me.
And, as we could see the fleet out of the window of the chamber of the Emperor, we could see, that the fleet hasn't extended beyound human vision, because we could see, that still in human vision, there were no further ships but the ships at the battle in the centre of the field of vision.
If the fleet would have extended beyound human vision, we would have seen ships all over the field of vision till they wouldn't be recognizable anymore.
If you don't agree with my answer, maybe you could write, why you disagree. Otherwise, there is little sense in continuing this debate.
That's why I have to request again, to the at least fourth time, that you don't only repeat an already adressed argument of yours, if you don't address the raised objections.
Maybe you can explain me, why I should assume, that there would be more Star Destroyers behind the farthest, in this picture yellow cirled, Star Destroyers. I think, I would have to be able, to see them as point, bigger than the stars in the background. Sure, it could be, that there are some ships, which are obscured by the window frame or the Executor - but not a whole fleet of thousands of ships. (Besides that, if you see the sequence, while the the Falcon changes its alignment to this fleet, you can see, what is now behind the frame.)
Or why I should assume, that there would be more Star Destroyers left and right of the fleet in the centre of the picture, when I can't see any more Star Destroyers.
What could have prevented the Alliance Fleet to jump to hyperspeed on a course left or right, above or under the Emperial Fleet? Admiral Ackbar was about to give the order to withdrawal. That's why I have to assume, that a withdrawal was possible. Only because Landos intervention, they stayed and have battled the Star Destroyers.
Sure, it is always possible, to invent a sophisticated story, why there would be substantially more ships, as we can see. But in such a story, you would have to give so much more informations, which aren't mentioned in the movies, but logically would have mentioned, if they were true, that you would virtually create a new story.
Why would have neither the movie nor the novel mentioned important facts, which would let appear the whole story in another light?