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Just asking there. It seems, first, that the core, the molten core in fact, sits fairly deep. Well, it is not exceptionnal, as we haven't seen the Gungans or Naboos go that deep down, despite Boos Nass' words about going "through the core".

What we see about Naboo is that it's like swiss cheese. Apparently, going through the core, that is, taking a shortcut to get some kind of direct path instead of circling a certain arc of the planet, Qui Gon and co ended in a network of more or less natural rivers that all ending falling off a huge cliff.

While all rivers generally grow from small sources, and actually start as very small streams, it seems that the rivers and lakes on Naboo are heavily interconnected.

One possible explanation would be that either there are giant worms which love tunneling through the crust, or that during the more active periods of the planet's formation, super heated gas throughoutly released, often getting caught in the upper layers of the cooler crust, forming all sorts of giant pockets of air, resultnig in huge natural cavities and tunnels.

That said, with such a porous crust, the overall density can be as high as one you'd find on a planet like Earth.

Whatever happened, this could be related to the special nature of the core. That's where it's interesting.

In the films, the core is exploited to power the cities. We see that there's an impressive system that pumps what appears to be some sort of plasma.

I don't have the novelisations, so there may be more details in there.

EU sources clearly expand on this, confirming the existence of a plasma rich core, and the absence of a molten core. With whatever consequences it could have on magnetic fields.
We're also shown that the crust gets denser and denser, as the caverns get smaller and less numerous.

The EU even says that the exploitation of the plasma, used to power chips and cities, is so abundant that it's even sold to other worlds, thanks to the Trade Federation.
THe plasma is said to power all the royal and military ships, such as the yatch and N-1 fighters.

The EU says that the extractor in Theed is the most important one ever built, largely outproducing other traditionnal and much smaller extractions points, and was created after the discovery of an important plasma layer.

Knowing all this, even without taking into consideration the EU, I wonder how long those natural ressources could last, and how much total energy the planet's plasma core could contain.

As for the EU, this is interesting to know how much energy a given and small volume of such plasma, even supercompressed (EU), could provide for small or medium spaceships. It coudl put a cap on the energy requirements of the yatch hyperspace jumps, for example, or the accelerations, shields and weapons.

Which Eu sources were they? The ones wanking the tech levels or keeping them low?

Given the sheer size of some of the creatures on Naboo, some might be burrowers that helped make some of the tunnels to make homes.

GStone wrote:Which Eu sources were they? The ones wanking the tech levels or keeping them low?

Most of what I posted comes from TPM's Locations of Action illustrated book.
It's like an ICS, still with plenty of large and detailed paintings and cross sections, but which focus on the places, battles at a large scale, worlds, cities, astronomy and geological specifities.
This one, as far as I know, predates Saxton's drastic influence.

Given the sheer size of some of the creatures on Naboo, some might be burrowers that helped make some of the tunnels to make homes.

It is possible. But what you burrow from somewhere... you lay it elsewhere.
Bascially, the mass' still the same, and the crust is still very porous.

For example, remember those plasma columns seen in the battle between Darth Maul and the Jedi?

Just how much plasma could they extract per second, and how much energy could be contained in one cubic meter of that plasma?

All in all, a planet can only "contain" a limited amount of energy, really.

We can look for Earth as an example. Just how much energy would Naboo's original gas mantle (and core as whole apparently) would need to turn into plasma?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 121122.htm

"For the first time, scientists have directly measured the amount of heat flowing from the molten metal of Earth's core into a region at the base of the mantle, a process that helps drive both the movement of tectonic plates at the surface and the geodynamo in the core that generates Earth's magnetic field."

"The researchers suspect that upwelling of hot mantle material may be taking place at the edges of the lens of postperovskite. They detected the lens in the lowermost mantle southeast of Hawaii, an area where previous studies have suggested there is an upwelling hot mantle plume from near the core-mantle boundary that may be responsible for the Hawaiian Islands chain of volcanoes.

The temperature at the upper boundary of the lens, where the phase transition from perovskite to postperovskite occurs, is around 2,500 kelvins (4,000 degrees Fahrenheit). At the lower boundary, where the reverse transition occurs, the temperature is around 3,500 kelvins (5,800 degrees Fahrenheit). These two points gave the researchers a temperature gradient from which they calculated the heat flow, or thermal flux: about 80 million watts per square meter. Extrapolating to the entire surface of the core gave a total heat flow of about 13 trillion watts.

"We think we are in a relatively hot region of the mantle, and cooler areas will have an even higher heat flux, so this probably sets a lower bound on the total heat flow across the core-mantle boundary. The numbers you might read in a textbook are about one-third of that," Lay said."

There's probably more to find, though I'm not sure I'm looking the right direction.

That said, it doesn't seem like the Naboo and Gungan are exploited the ressources of this planet since yesterday only, and with the overrated energy expenditures claimed by certain fans, you just have to question how long Naboo would go on for.

Mr. Oragahn wrote:

GStone wrote:Which Eu sources were they? The ones wanking the tech levels or keeping them low?

Most of what I posted comes from TPM's Locations of Action illustrated book.
It's like an ICS, still with plenty of large and detailed paintings and cross sections, but which focus on the places, battles at a large scale, worlds, cities, astronomy and geological specifities.
This one, as far as I know, predates Saxton's drastic influence.

Phew. That's a relief. You know, I think some of the stuff they came up with in the complete ICS was trying to find some reasonable bridge between his inflation and what they already had.

Given the sheer size of some of the creatures on Naboo, some might be burrowers that helped make some of the tunnels to make homes.

It is possible. But what you burrow from somewhere... you lay it elsewhere.

Some of the smaller creatures might feed partially on the larger one's waste and some of it might be used to create those spires coming off the ocean floor.

Bascially, the mass' still the same, and the crust is still very porous.

Hey, maybe some of it or most of it is used to refill areas that have been whittled way by the magma. It'd be kind like when you sleep at night and the crap from inside your nose drains down your throat and into your stomach to line it, so the stomach acids don't burn a hole in the stomach.

For example, remember those plasma columns seen in the battle between Darth Maul and the Jedi?

Just how much plasma could they extract per second, and how much energy could be contained in one cubic meter of that plasma?

They must have figured out some way to recycle it by adding small amounts of heat from generators, if they've been using it for a while.

That said, it doesn't seem like the Naboo and Gungan are exploited the ressources of this planet since yesterday only, and with the overrated energy expenditures claimed by certain fans, you just have to question how long Naboo would go on for.

You know, I was just thinking about something similar to this recently. We know in the canon that there's fusion reactors and that's orbably what's being used with these geothermal magma plasma lines. But, if they really had fission reactors, why would the ISD in ESB toss their garbage out into space? There'd be no need.

My guess for lifespan is that they al put in waste materials that get converted into plasma, too, and recyle stuff that way. No wonder you don't see garbage mounds anywhere.