StarWarsStarTrek wrote:Let's actually analyze this instead of making a string of threads that will devolve into the same arguments.
The issue is that each of the componet arguments is well a complex argument that is a topic unto itself. To put this in very simple terms you can't argue who will win while simultationously arguing over how fast hyperdrive is, how powerful phasers are ect. Each of these is a complex topic with a plethera of evidence that must be presented, verified and counter-checked.
Slipstream at its height is still far slower than hyperdrive
Let's try this from the top.
here at 11:28 we see the faux Dauntless enter the slipstream. at 12:00 we see the ship drop back into realspace and at 12:12 we learn the ship traveled over fifteen lightyears. Even assuming say five minutes have passed that we don't see, unlikely since the cuts back and to the away team seems to show them still in the same positions, we can work the following out.
15 lightyears every five minutes *12 to equal 180 lightyears an hour * 24 to equal 4320 lightyears a day * 7 to equal 30240 lightyears in a week * 4 to equal 120960 lightyears a month*12 to equal 1451520 lightyears a year. Ergo over a million c.
(yes I now the above is very crude and simplistic but it should be good enough for a rough aproximation.)
In the interest of honesty the phony message from starfleet expects them to manage a far slower speed crossing 60,000 lightyears in three months for a "slow speed" of somewhere over two hundred thousand c.
Conversly the only movie given distance, about three lightyears, has what hours up to maybe a day passing?
If they are monopolizing trade, the Republic says 'screw you' to them and boots them out.
Far easier said than done. You have the Romulans to contend with and likely don't want to ADD to your headaches, you have the force commitment required if you choose to anger the Grand Nagus as well as any friends and local alliances they've made in the time it took you to realize they've beem worming their way inside.
That is in addition to the Republic goverment, assuming the Romulans didn't torch the world as an opening bid, can get its collective act togather long enough to realize the threat and decide on a course of action. Something I'm dubious of, the senate struck me as a corrupt, decaying monolith not a smoothly running machine.
According to the G canon ROTS film-novel, there are quadrillions of citizens in the Republic
Cool quote? Sci-Fi writters rarely use the world quadrillion. They typically employ millions, the biggest number the average human can even paritally wrap thier mind around, as short hand for here be a lot of people.
their entire armed forces would be outnumbered by a single sector fleet
? The Romulans likely have in the rough nieghborhood of ten thousand warships. Just how many ships do you think are in a single sector fleet?
and their entire ground based military lacks the numbers to take a single medium populated Star Wars planet
That's quite an observation since we don't know how many ground pounders the Romulans employs, or really anything beyond Reman are used as shock troops, and I must ask you the ultimate question. What are you basing any of this off of?
The Romulans fail as soon as they get a fleet of millions of ships knocking on their doorstep.
Would it be wrong to assume that you have anything to back up this number?
I can just pull out a certain image of a certain very famous battlestation, and you'll have to claim that the Empire's industrial capability exceeds the Republic's by several orders of magnitude, and then you'll have to back that up.
Yeah. The Galactic Empire builds 1.5 deathstars over a twenty odd year period. Now lets take a look at what the hyper militant Empire fielded in terms of warships.
Specter of the Past wrote:A thousand systems left, out of an Empire that had once spanned a million. Two hundred Star Destroyers remaining from a fleet that had once included over twenty-five thousand of them.
Only twenty-five thousand at its peak. Low double digits and these are the cream of the warfleet. Well the ISD is with the Victory and Venator stardestroyer being comparatively weaker than the big dog imperial but still not slouches.
Starship of the Galaxy wrote:Few starships inspire terror the way a Star Destroyer can. A symbol of the Empire's might and an instrument of its tyranny, the Imperial Star Destroyer is a dagger-shaped vessel of pure destruction. Armed with powerful weapons and nearly impregnable defenses, the Imperial Star Destroyer is a one-ship command platform that can be used to fill a variety of roles. Star Destroyers act as assault warships, planetary defenders, even escort vessels for extremely important ships."
Starships of the galaxy continued... wrote:During the height of the Empire, Star Destroyers were deployed in every sector, and some planets even have their own Star Destroyers assigned to them. The Imperial Fortress worlds of the Deep Core often had multiple Star Destroyers assigned to a single planet, and important planets such as Coruscant might have as many as a dozen Star Destroyers, if not more, in orbit at any given time. Unlike the Old Republic, the Empire built enough ships to extend its reach all the way to the Outer Rim, and multiple Star Destroyers patrolled the space lanes on a regular basis
ISDS are some of the biggest and meanest ships around and... the Empire fielded them maybe up to a dozen over important worlds. As well this is an Empire which has undergone a massive military buildup instead of the decaying Republic.
And before you try and claim I'm trying to overwrite G-cannon with C-cannon show me where in the movies multi-thousand warfleets abound or where it states the Death Star converts one hundred percent into its equivlent mass of Star Destroyers.
