SW Disruptors and ST Phasers...

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SW Disruptors and ST Phasers...

Post by Praeothmin » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:06 pm

Over at ASVS, we were debating on the accuracy of weapons and their effects, in the "UFP plan to defand against the Empire with one year warning attact fighters" thread, started by our old friend Jason.

At one point, Tyralak brought up the SW Disruptors effects, and looking at the Wookiepedia article, I found that the effects were somewhat similar to ST Phasers (they both play havoc with an molecule's strong atomic forces, in effect, dissipating them into their basic atomic constituants).
Since SW Disruptors seem to ignore most (not all) SW personal shields, would Phasers also do the same?
Do SW ship shields act the same way as their personal shields?
Would ship Phasers go through SW ship shields?

Food for thought... :)

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Re: SW Disruptors and ST Phasers...

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:53 pm

Praeothmin wrote:Over at ASVS, we were debating on the accuracy of weapons and their effects, in the "UFP plan to defand against the Empire with one year warning attact fighters" thread, started by our old friend Jason.

At one point, Tyralak brought up the SW Disruptors effects, and looking at the Wookiepedia article, I found that the effects were somewhat similar to ST Phasers (they both play havoc with an molecule's strong atomic forces, in effect, dissipating them into their basic atomic constituants).
Since SW Disruptors seem to ignore most (not all) SW personal shields, would Phasers also do the same?
Do SW ship shields act the same way as their personal shields?
Would ship Phasers go through SW ship shields?

Food for thought... :)
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Re: SW Disruptors and ST Phasers...

Post by Praeothmin » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:03 pm

Ah, I seemed to remember seeing such an argument before, but i just couldn't remember where... :)
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Re: SW Disruptors and ST Phasers...

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:42 pm

Praeothmin wrote:Ah, I seemed to remember seeing such an argument before, but i just couldn't remember where... :)
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May we have a link to the thread, please?

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Re: SW Disruptors and ST Phasers...

Post by Praeothmin » Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:43 pm

Here it is, but the thread wasn't about this, this was just a side-note I brought into it:
http://www.asvs.us/index.php/topic/1229 ... ge__st__20

It starts at page 2, and is concluded in page 3...

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Re: SW Disruptors and ST Phasers...

Post by Mike DiCenso » Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:33 pm

I've seen that thread, but like all the others started and argued by that Jason guy, it's one that gives me a total headache. I'm getting suspicious that he's really just someone's A.I. bot experiment that was tested here, then deployed on ASVS as a means to stimulate posting along with StarDestroyerAvenger.
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Re: SW Disruptors and ST Phasers...

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:40 pm

He just doesn't seem to be a guy with a point but being incapable of properly voicing it.

On the topic at hand, notably looking back on the older disruptor thread, I'd say that I forwarded quite a lot of data, others added some more quotations, but globally it finds its limits in that there is no way to say that the system that disrupts atomic bonds in SW is the same as the one in ST.
Yes, both fire a form of plasma, both are visible, both clearly have frequencies involved there, and both do things which a direct input of energy wouldn't do. Plus the MCPS directly affects a small surface area, but then the effect spreads on its own, and hand held disruptors in SW clearly "burn" people away. The point is that if a SW disintegrator was described in a ST book, it would feel at home, with perhaps the only difference that the SW "equivalent" seems less advanced, as it actually leaves atoms floating around after that (well, at least in the large MCPS version mounted on a Star Destroyer)...

I must also say that I thought the versus threads at ASVS would be a bit more... alive.

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Re: SW Disruptors and ST Phasers...

Post by Mike DiCenso » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:46 pm

Well really, what did you expect? Look at who is posting the most threads there. It's Jason. Most people are responding to bash him, and then things drift off quite a ways and someone will actually start to bring up other points, which in turn changes the thread to something other than a huge smackdown fest, but rarely follows the disjointed OP.
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