First, I’m sorry for the delay, I had some problems with my internet connection but it seems to be working fine now.
Even if their productivity is different, the number of worlds in the Federation being 150, and not 1500 like I (so strangely) thought so, means that the Empire controls even more ressources then the Federation could ever hope to match.
Picard quote has been addressed elsewhere and even pro-Wars debaters accept that he probably was talking about member worlds and that he didn’t include all of the colonies and such but that’s not the point, even if the Empire controls more resources than the Federation (No one is disputing that) it doesn’t mean that they can use those resources more efficiently not even manage them better. The Death Star projects are not a good example of how to administrate your resources.
Of course not, and I never said as much.
Since the beginning, I believe I have stated that if a
reinforcement fleet of 2800 ships (so by using reinforcement I'm already stating I know it is not the only ships they are fighting) can scare them, then a power capble of bringing
more reinforcements -meaning more ships than those they are already fighting- would be an even bigger threat.
In fact, here is part of one of my statements:
ships are considered a considerable reinforcement,
So we both agre that they were already fighting a big fleet, but that 2800 ships as reinforcement was enough to scare them.
The only actual place we disagree on, is the Empire's capacity to produce the kind of reinforcements I'm talking about.
We'll get to that later... :)
If I understand correctly, you said “Thousands of ships as reinforcements are enough to scare them”, and then I replied by saying “Thousands of ships are enough to scare them only if they are reinforcing ten of thousands of ships that they are already fighting and losing”. But yes, a power capable of deploy tens of thousands of ships would be a big threat, but now I’m not quite sure if the Empire can be that power.
Because we like to?... :)
We are debating the actual industrial capacity of both the Feds and the Empire to produce huge fleets.
If you re-read all our posts, you will notice that is essentially the only thing we disagree on... :)
But boy, do we ever... :)
Now that’s the difference, when needed to be, the Federation did deployed thousands of ships even tens of thousands, meaning that they actually have the capacity to produce huge fleets but in the other hand, the Empire failed to deploy even a few hundred ships at their most important engagement.
Well, yes and no...
Yes because, since the beginning, I stated that if the Empire had a million ships, they would not only be ISDs.
Their total ship count would include all the smaller cruisers, transport vessels, all the support vessels they needed, just like the Fed's fleet isn't only comprised of Sovereign-class vessels.
No because, your point is a really good one:
30 vessels, no matter how big, would not have been noticed any more than perhaps 100 to 300 (I'm not too sure about 1000, because I truly feel a fleet movement of 1000 ISDs would be too big to pass unnoticed... ).
I wasn’t clear enough, my mistake. When I stated a million ships I never meant that they would be only ISDs. The thousand ships that I also mentioned could have been a mix of a few hundred ISDs and other lesser classes, but my point stands, a thousand assorted ships would be only a drop in the bucket.
