The Romulan Star Empire and The Ferengi vs the republic

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Re: The Romulan Star Empire and The Ferengi vs the republic

Post by Picard » Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:26 pm

Either that or novelization.

But it does seem it is in movies.

http://massassi.hobby-site.com/massassi ... 1mov05.htm

http://home.online.no/~bhundlan/scripts ... sode-I.txt

http://www.scribd.com/doc/4841990/StarWars-Epis-123

http://www.stardestroyer.net/TPMRevelations/#Cloak

However, I think that Amidala's ship is not any larger than Falcon, and Imperial officer in TESB states that "No ship that small can have cloaking device.". Enlighten me...

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Re: The Romulan Star Empire and The Ferengi vs the republic

Post by Lucky » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:01 am

Picard wrote:Either that or novelization.

But it does seem it is in movies.

http://massassi.hobby-site.com/massassi ... 1mov05.htm

http://home.online.no/~bhundlan/scripts ... sode-I.txt

http://www.scribd.com/doc/4841990/StarWars-Epis-123

http://www.stardestroyer.net/TPMRevelations/#Cloak

However, I think that Amidala's ship is not any larger than Falcon, and Imperial officer in TESB states that "No ship that small can have cloaking device.". Enlighten me...
Am I correct in thinking that the scene is from the escape from Naboo at the start of Episode 1 The Phantom Menace? I can't find the quote in the movie.

Just watch the entire clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqGU22Ue ... re=related

Relevant part starts at about 7:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J2M3hxT ... re=related

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Re: The Romulan Star Empire and The Ferengi vs the republic

Post by Mike DiCenso » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:31 am

It's hard to tell, most of the scripts available online either do or don't have it. The one Picard linked to has this:

PANAKA: Stay on course!

QUI-GON: Do you have a cloaking device ?

PANAKA: No, this is not a warship, we have no weapons. We're a non-violent people, that is why the Federation was brave enough to attack us.

RIC OLIE: We won't make it. The shields are gone.


If the scene was filmed at all, it is not in the final cut, or was in the theatrical release, but is not available in the VHS or DVD versions. Wong allegedly quotes the TPM novelization, so it was in at least one draft of the script. But with the removal from a fairly brief scene, does that reduce it's canon status?
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Re: The Romulan Star Empire and The Ferengi vs the republic

Post by Mike DiCenso » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:53 am

Picard wrote:Either that or novelization.

But it does seem it is in movies.

http://massassi.hobby-site.com/massassi ... 1mov05.htm

http://home.online.no/~bhundlan/scripts ... sode-I.txt

http://www.scribd.com/doc/4841990/StarWars-Epis-123

http://www.stardestroyer.net/TPMRevelations/#Cloak

However, I think that Amidala's ship is not any larger than Falcon, and Imperial officer in TESB states that "No ship that small can have cloaking device.". Enlighten me...
By the way, the scribd.com version does not have the cloaking device dialog in it. So it seems that different people have gotten hold of different drafts of the script. It does not appear to be in the final shooting drafts. The only reason the cloaking dialog exists in the TPM novelization is probably because the author had only an early draft to work from for starting it as was the case with most of the movie novelizations.
-Mike

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Re: The Romulan Star Empire and The Ferengi vs the republic

Post by Lucky » Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:47 pm

Mike DiCenso wrote:
Picard wrote:Either that or novelization.

But it does seem it is in movies.

http://massassi.hobby-site.com/massassi ... 1mov05.htm

http://home.online.no/~bhundlan/scripts ... sode-I.txt

http://www.scribd.com/doc/4841990/StarWars-Epis-123

http://www.stardestroyer.net/TPMRevelations/#Cloak

However, I think that Amidala's ship is not any larger than Falcon, and Imperial officer in TESB states that "No ship that small can have cloaking device.". Enlighten me...
By the way, the scribd.com version does not have the cloaking device dialog in it. So it seems that different people have gotten hold of different drafts of the script. It does not appear to be in the final shooting drafts. The only reason the cloaking dialog exists in the TPM novelization is probably because the author had only an early draft to work from for starting it as was the case with most of the movie novelizations.
-Mike
Wouldn't the shooting script, the two movies, and "Cat and Mouse" trump the other scripts and a novelization?

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Re: The Romulan Star Empire and The Ferengi vs the republic

Post by Mike DiCenso » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:25 pm

The two movies most certainly would, but TCW's "Cat and Mouse" is T canon, which is just below G canon (though I have no idea why the hell that would be since it has heavy George Lucas involvement and production, and Lucas even says this is legit part of his story of Star Wars).
-Mike

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Re: The Romulan Star Empire and The Ferengi vs the republic

Post by Lucky » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:32 am

Mike DiCenso wrote:The two movies most certainly would, but TCW's "Cat and Mouse" is T canon, which is just below G canon (though I have no idea why the hell that would be since it has heavy George Lucas involvement and production, and Lucas even says this is legit part of his story of Star Wars).
-Mike
2.99999999999999999999 peaces of evidence is better then just 2.

It's lower canon partly because of the stylized characters, and likely to try to appease the rabid <Sarcasm>fans</Sarcasm> who think Star Wars is anything other then a kiddy show.

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