A challenge to Trekkies

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Re: A challenge to Trekkies

Post by Trinoya » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:52 pm

There are two versions of the accalamator, and it seems as though one does not have guns. There's the acclamator 2 and the acclamator 1, as I recall.

And again, the lack of guns on some shown acclamators, something with can easily be explained by retractable turrets preventing one from accidentally going off or the earlier versions not having any, does not contradict reactor outputs or victory class star destroyers having guns and quantifiable power outputs.
In regards to your "On some shown" statement

ON ALL SHOWN ACCLAMATORS save for the ICS drawing ONLY.

Moving on.

You can, of course, prove which acclamator is which, and that the guns retract, right? You could show me pictures of an acclamator firing, or text from a licensed source stating, "The retractable guns." You could do this right? Something to back up your claim... because... as of right now you're just espousing a claim that has no evidence to back it up.. just your theory... to that end I could make a similar claim about any number of issues in star trek... The idea that something is 'off screen' is the same that it is retracted or that, 'its particular class didn't have it, but another one did!"


So care to actually provide evidence of your claim... T and G level only please... since as of right now T and G level contradict their very existence.


Hell, I'm just gonna go off and state the following: As the guns are a one off seen only once they are clearly a technology that could not be reproduced at best... what a shame.

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Re: A challenge to Trekkies

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:16 pm

The Acclamators shown in the AOTC:ICS are supposed to be those of the movie. So the existence, in the EU, of variant, doesn't matter at all, does it?

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Re: A challenge to Trekkies

Post by Trinoya » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:18 pm

You know, I always forget that point, thanks for bringing that one up. ^_^

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Re: A challenge to Trekkies

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:11 pm

All yours.

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Re: A challenge to Trekkies

Post by StarWarsStarTrek » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:29 pm

Trinoya, if you wish, you can create a separate thread about Acclamator guns. I acknowledge that the acclamators shown in the films do not seem to have guns, but these can easily be explained as being an early model, or retractable. This is not really relevant, because the Acclamator's power generation figure is not contradicted, nor are the weapons figures and power output figures for all the other ships that do have guns.

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Re: A challenge to Trekkies

Post by Trinoya » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:38 pm

For me the only relevant section is the lack of the guns, and you have admitted to the possibility of them not being there, which is far more progress than most have made with you.

If you wish to discuss power generation to justify higher end firepower figures then by all means start that thread, although I believe even the most generous figures I've come across only give double digit megaton (although number of guns can inflate that figure). Personally though, power generation is so inconsistent in all universes that I think it may be fubar at best, and futile at worst.

I digress, that is off topic. I shall now move on. I've obtained the information required for my thought experiment. Thank you for your time.

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Re: A challenge to Trekkies

Post by StarWarsStarTrek » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:29 pm

Trinoya wrote:For me the only relevant section is the lack of the guns, and you have admitted to the possibility of them not being there, which is far more progress than most have made with you.

If you wish to discuss power generation to justify higher end firepower figures then by all means start that thread, although I believe even the most generous figures I've come across only give double digit megaton (although number of guns can inflate that figure). Personally though, power generation is so inconsistent in all universes that I think it may be fubar at best, and futile at worst.

I digress, that is off topic. I shall now move on. I've obtained the information required for my thought experiment. Thank you for your time.
The only relevant section is the lack of guns? What? It's a nitpick, nothing more.

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