Nature of Empire vs. Federation technology

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Re: Nature of Empire vs. Federation technology

Post by Picard » Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:38 pm

Yes, it did. And that field was fairly dense, from what I remember (which is one of things supporting Darkstar's statement that "superlaser" is not laser at all).

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Re: Nature of Empire vs. Federation technology

Post by Praeothmin » Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:29 pm

Padathrawn wrote:If the acceleration into hyperspace were due to warp-drive, or some other actual gravity-bending tech, then it would affect R2 just as much as the ship itself; and so R2 would thus experience no relative inertia, and wouldn't have budged an inch. (This is also why Picard doesn't go flying through the back of the Enterprise, when they go from zero to 1000C in 0.1 seconds, i.e. he's accelerated by the warp-field just as much as the ship-- which is also why the engines don't break off from those flimsy-looking pylons).
Says who, KSW?
How do you know it is correct?
We know from ST canon that they have the IDF (Inertial Dampening Fields) to counter the Warp Drive's acceleration, so if what you are saying is true, then ST doesn't have true gravity bending tech either...
What R2 being pushed back can mean is simply that the SW version of the IDF is weaker than ST's, or that the acceleration of the MF was greater than that of a ship going to Warp...
So the same type of artificial grav-tech used for onboard ships, could easily be used for the shields, tractor-beams etc; but it couldn't be real gravity like Star Trek, i.e. involving bending space and using gravitons etc
And as usual, you provide no evidence beyond "because I say so".
You need to prove why SW's gravity plates aren't the same as ST.
They create artificial gravity, and SW have deflectors (Canon, as they are mentioned in ANH I believe), and they have anti-grav units as well (Solo's carbon-frozen sled)...

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Re: Nature of Empire vs. Federation technology

Post by Picard » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:40 pm

Actually, I think that SW frequently uses "deflectors" in meaning of "shields" (combat shields). TOS frequently did same thing, with its "deflector screens", "deflectors", "screens", "shields" etc.

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Re: Nature of Empire vs. Federation technology

Post by Praeothmin » Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:24 pm

Picard wrote:Actually, I think that SW frequently uses "deflectors" in meaning of "shields" (combat shields). TOS frequently did same thing, with its "deflector screens", "deflectors", "screens", "shields" etc.
Indeed, in both franchises, it seems "Deflectors" and "Shields" are interchangeable...

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