Praeothmin wrote:Sideswipe wrote:First Contact is leaps and bounds better than Abramstrek. I will admit, the others aren't that great, but at least they are not built around a string of logic busting coincidences. What about the time wasted on Spock/Uhura? That made no sense pairing them off. Kirk doesn't even graduate from the academy, yet he is promoted to captain of the flagship with virtually no command experience!
In your opinion it is, in mine it's not...
Picard wasn't acting as the Picard we've learned to admire, the crew were all acting like idiots at some occasions, all of a sudden, Picard, who had been de-Borgified, would not try to save his crewmembers, etc...
I don't know. If anything, it shows me that he wasn't being completely honest, either with his "Drumhead" tribunal or himself, in describing himself as having "completely recovered" from his experience with the Borg. Then again, he could simply not have been prepared for facing them again. He does say in the opening moments that he's been dreading a Borg invasion for nearly 6 years. That probably weighed pretty heavily on him, putting him under more stress than he realized.
Generations is a complete mess of course, though I can actually buy Data's being completely overwhelmed by the experience of emotion, especially since the chip was messing with his neural nets. The Enterprise-D being downed by an old, defective BoP is straight hogwash. A full spread of torpedoes would have made quick work of it.
Insurrection was a glorified episode. The plot and story were just too small to make a movie.
Nemesis was a painful rehash of old cliches. They find
another Soong-type android. Where in the hell did Shinzon get it? That planet from "Brothers." Omicron Theta?
In a way, Nemesis and NuTrek both have the same glaring issues for me. Why are both villains suddenly so interested in wiping out Earth? Picard describes the Scimitar thusly:
He would only have built a weapon of such scope for one purpose. He's going after Earth. Why? He could be going after the Time Lords for all Picard knows. He's a human clone, but he was raised by Remans and identifies with them. Do the Remans hate Earth too? I'd think they'd have more beef with the Romulans themselves, and with his conquest of the Romulan government complete, Shinzon only needs Picard's DNA. Why didn't he just say that from the beginning. Picard would probably have leapt at the chance to save the new Praetor's life and inaugurate a new era with the Empire.
As messy as Generations is, it's villain is superior to both Nero and Shinzon, and not simply because he's played by Malcolm McDowell. I can understand Soran. He wants to get into the Nexus. The nonsense about not being able to just fly into it is plainly contradicted IN THE MOVIE ITSELF when Scotty says
their lifesigns are phasing in and out of our spacetime continuum. So that contrived impediment is complete bullshit. But that aside, I get why he's doing what he's going. He's destroying stars to alter the ribbon's course, and whatever gets in his way is destroyed. He doesn't care about destroying Earth. He doesn't really know Picard (and certainly doesn't know Kirk) or have any particular issue with either of them aside from the fact that they're in his way. That's it. He's completely, maniacally devoted to his goal, and I can understand that. He's not very interesting in that regard, but his purpose and his plot make sense, and don't need any additional explanations.
Why does Shinzon suddenly want to destroy Earth? The Remans are a lower caste in the Empire, treated as slaves and denied any position of merit or authority, and by the beginning of the movie they're rectified that. In spite of that, Shinzon wants to destroy Earth, and the viceroy even describes that as "their mission." Why? What does Earth have to do with the Remans' situation? They'd already achieved their goal. Do the Romulans brainwash their slave miners into hating humans "just in case?" And is the Federation just going to up and surrender when Earth get's zapped? Or pull the plans for the Genesis Device out of storage? MAD works because no one has the capacity to totally annihilate their enemies' ability to retaliate. Destroying Earth would take out the leadership, but it wouldn't do anything about the tens of thousands of starships the Federation has, each of which would be chock full of thoroughly incensed humans (and member of every other decent race.)
And Nero has already destroyed Vulcan, to make Spock suffer as he had suffered. His villainous goals made sense up to that point. Then he goes after Earth, because he wants to blow up every planet in the Federation. I guess it's just because he's Romulan and Romulans are raised to hate humans. Or he's simply crazy, and crazy doesn't need to make sense, but that seems like less of an explanation than a lame excuse for poor writing. The whole thing just felt lazy to me. "Let's have the bad guy blow up earth" seems like a stock plot that's introduced when Trek writers run out of interesting things to write.
My 2 cents.
