ACCLAMATOR - weapons

Mr. Oragahn · Post by **Mr. Oragahn** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:03 pm

Flectarn wrote:Didn't the Trade Federation ships pull a trick like that in Phantom Menace?

There's also the fixed gun emplacements we see in Revenge of the Sith, presumably those would be concealed during non-combat operations

But those are nowhere worth 200 GT. Actually, despite their very low yields, these types of guns, either from a Venator or the Invisible Hand, put holes in the armoured hull of opposite ships.

Flectarn · Post by **Flectarn** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:02 pm

Mr. Oragahn wrote: But those are nowhere worth 200 GT. Actually, despite their very low yields, these types of guns, either from a Venator or the Invisible Hand, put holes in the armoured hull of opposite ships.

I count that as strong evidence against ICS style yields myself, given that those looked like their supposed to be a heavy gun, and definitely were able to penetrate the supposedly uber-neutroneum armor of the other ships.

but yield not withstanding, they did appear concealable.

Post by **Mike DiCenso** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:53 pm

Mr. Oragahn wrote:
Flectarn wrote:Didn't the Trade Federation ships pull a trick like that in Phantom Menace?

There's also the fixed gun emplacements we see in Revenge of the Sith, presumably those would be concealed during non-combat operations
But those are nowhere worth 200 GT. Actually, despite their very low yields, these types of guns, either from a Venator or the Invisible Hand, put holes in the armoured hull of opposite ships.

There are also the small anti-starfighter TLs on the first Death Star that were not only recessed into the hull structure, but could also be rotated or elevated a considerable ways, too.
-Mike

Mr. Oragahn · Post by **Mr. Oragahn** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:00 pm

You think those turrets could have been worth shots in the 200 GT ballpark, based on the ICS scale?
The turrets on the Trade Federation cargo ships were already huge, and they're, at best, considered light turbolasers, sometimes just laser cannons.

Flectarn · Post by **Flectarn** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:02 pm

arn't the deathstar cannons actually anti-capital ship batteries? that being the reason they couldn't track the fighters

Post by **Mike DiCenso** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:54 am

Mr. Oragahn wrote:You think those turrets could have been worth shots in the 200 GT ballpark, based on the ICS scale?
The turrets on the Trade Federation cargo ships were already huge, and they're, at best, considered light turbolasers, sometimes just laser cannons.

No, of course not. You already know the calculations done on this forum, as well as on the previous ones that dealt with the issue of light and medium TL firepower's actual lower limits. It's very unlikely that they are anywhere near that magnitude of firepower.

Certainly what we know of Slave-I's actual blaster firepower, the light TLs cannot be anything like that given small ship and starfighters' ability to actually threaten even moderately large captial ships.
-Mike

Post by **Mike DiCenso** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:08 am

Flectarn wrote:arn't the deathstar cannons actually anti-capital ship batteries? that being the reason they couldn't track the fighters

Yes. Though the smaller ones we see with actual gun crews on them seem very much to be anti-starfighter, but their numbers aren't concentrated enough to form a tight enough defense against them, nor do they seem overly powerful as we see bolts appear inside the "window" cutout, and yet there is not enough excess heat energy from these weapons that the DS atmosphere's temperature is being being raised in any signficant way. At the AoTC: ICS firepower levels, the gunners seen on one such mount here (scroll down mid-page), would be cooked, if not utterly vaporized by the waste heat, if they were even a tiny fraction of that power!
-Mike