About me supposedly ignoring evidence

[Mr. Oragahn]

Nowhere did I claim that no evidence was provided. I actively admit in the OP that here may be evidence that I missed, and that you can post them here.

Please, stop that shit and drop that silly strawman, you can't even pull a clever one. You repeatedly ignored the evidence after it was mentioned and put into contrast with your figure. You were acting like if the figure you were defending was anything new, but since you didn't read the goddamn thread, you never realized that it was old hat.

Despite having a clear forum to post all of your evidence that you want me to answer, and refuse to post any despite having little to lose from it and everything to prove; if I ignore what you post HERE, I cannot claim not noticing it.

I already said it. I won't grant you the privilege of repeating the same dishonest methods so you could repeat the same nonsense you pulled countless times in many threads, in many derailments.
How is it that you don't compute?

You failed to behave adequately at first, so you certainly aren't in a position to ask for other people to reformulate their requests for the umpteenth time.
What is clear is that you do know beyond any possible escape that you had to tackle the destruction of Despayre in the appropriate thread. I just repeated it here. So what you'll do, is pay attention to arguments, read the damn thread, and if you have anything worthwhile or intelligent to add to the question of the DS' power generation, you'll deal with Despayre once and for all in the right thread, where you were asked to do so countless times already. No need to pretend that the requests weren't clear.
They perfectly were. You just chose to ignore them. Hence why in light of such blatant misbehiavour, I won't let you have another piece of that cake.
Considering your refusal to address the argument in time, I will accept your concession.

Actively and aggressively refusing to repost evidence you posted earlier when all you have to do is to search for them and paste them, and instead making a drawn excuse to not do so, even though the excuse takes more energy and space than just pasting your arguments once more, is a red flag.

Repost evidence? It was in the thread. There's nothing to repost, just you to read it first.

See the hypocrisy? You want me to answer your rebuttals, I ask you to post it, and you refuse, telling me to go find it.

The yields of the Despayre shots were discussed over several posts, genius. You think I'd copy an entire section of a thread just for your lazy arse because you chose to ignore what people posted before you while you're so late in the debate?
Whatever.

I'm calling you out: You're bullshitting.

I'm shattered.

[StarWarsStarTrek]

What excuses? When have I actively refused to respond to something by using an excuse? Sometimes I don't respond to posts because I do not notice them; this does not provide evidence of me ever using dishonest excuses to avoid responding to rebuttals.

So why don't you spend a few minutes and gather up some links or paste arguments that I have not refuted, instead of spending far more time and energy refusing to provide those links because "you'll use those undefined dishonest copouts that I have not proven or shown evidence of".

[Praeothmin]

Or, SWST, simply use the search function, and look up "despayre"...

[Kor_Dahar_Master]

What excuses? When have I actively refused to respond to something by using an excuse? Sometimes I don't respond to posts because I do not notice them; this does not provide evidence of me ever using dishonest excuses to avoid responding to rebuttals.

So why don't you spend a few minutes and gather up some links or paste arguments that I have not refuted, instead of spending far more time and energy refusing to provide those links because "you'll use those undefined dishonest copouts that I have not proven or shown evidence of".

So you are ignoring my link and examples on page 1 of this thread already huh.....

[Mr. Oragahn]

You know, I'm tired of this. I rarely saw such denial. The Death Star thread is updated, we'll see how you do over there.

OUT_

[Kor_Dahar_Master]

Start here if you like:

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... 9&start=45

You ignore the fact that they were stuck with auxiluary power BEFORE they entered the sphere let alone got near the star.

You claimed that they were using auxiluary shields that have never even been mentioned or seen in any trek episode or movie EVER let alone that episode.

You ignore that they are in orbit of the star for a considerable amount of time at 150,000km with SHIELDS DOWN, before needing to raise them due to a matter eplosion from the star they fly through.

You ignore the fact the explosions are going to gain in power and that the raised shields are only initially at 23% due to earlier damage but will still last for hours.

Simply put the bullshit you preached from SDN was torn apart so you made up even bigger bullshit and when that got ripped to shreds you bailed on the thread as per usual.

/awaits new bullshit from SWST.

[Admiral Breetai]

you have ignored entire OP's and posts by me as well

specifically you have never ever answered me when I asked you to justify Luke Sidious and Yodas EU feats with actual movie showings that support it

[StarWarsStarTrek]

Start here if you like:

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... 9&start=45

You ignore the fact that they were stuck with auxiluary power BEFORE they entered the sphere let alone got near the star.

You claimed that they were using auxiluary shields that have never even been mentioned or seen in any trek episode or movie EVER let alone that episode.

You ignore that they are in orbit of the star for a considerable amount of time at 150,000km with SHIELDS DOWN, before needing to raise them due to a matter eplosion from the star they fly through.

You ignore the fact the explosions are going to gain in power and that the raised shields are only initially at 23% due to earlier damage but will still last for hours.

Simply put the bullshit you preached from SDN was torn apart so you made up even bigger bullshit and when that got ripped to shreds you bailed on the thread as per usual.

/awaits new bullshit from SWST.

I am going to respond more in depth, probably on Tuesday. I did misinterpret "aux power" as "aux shields", so using that calculation it is difficult to determine the durability of the Enterprise's shields.

We do know, however, that Picard felt the need to raise the Enterprise's shields in order to counteract a few dozen megajoules of thermal energy and radiation.

[User1626]

I submit that he's not even aware that he's ignoring evidence. Not that ignorance is an excuse, it simply disqualifies him from discussion rather than being grounds for banning him; it doesn't matter whether the discussion is scuttled due to trolling or incompetence.
Six of one, half-dozen of the other, either way resistance is futile.

[Kor_Dahar_Master]

I am going to respond more in depth, probably on Tuesday. I did misinterpret "aux power" as "aux shields", so using that calculation it is difficult to determine the durability of the Enterprise's shields.

And ignored the fact they sat at 150,000km from the star WITHOUT shields for a considerable amount of time and only raised them due to the CME.

We do know, however, that Picard felt the need to raise the Enterprise's shields in order to counteract a few dozen megajoules of thermal energy and radiation.

Do we?, cos you have far from proved it and the fact i poited out above regarding them sitting at 150,000km WITHOUT shields for a considerable amout of time blows that shit out of the water once again.

Even Wangs crap on his site calculates that at 150,000km they can take 12TW and now we know the fact that the shields were down at that point they were taking 12TW on the hull for a unknown amount of time and did not seem bothered about it enough to raise shields until the CME hit.

So from that we can say that the E-D's HULL can take a bare minimum of 3 kilotons per second and they do not consider it something even worth mentioning or raising shields for at any point over the considerable time they were orbiting the star for prior to the CME.

[2046]

Example of ignoring opponents: http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... 230#p31230

[Picard]

Example of ignoring opponents: every thread SWST has discussion with someone

[Mike DiCenso]

We can also add the "Slave Ship and ICS" thread to this list where SWST ignores the the generosity of my first set of calculations about using a modest fleet of 60 Black Ice-type ships, and runs with the upper limit, rather than acknowledging it as such, and then continously ignoring the more impressive feats of the E-1701 and E-D to move super-massive objects.
-Mike

[StarWarsStarTrek]

We can also add the "Slave Ship and ICS" thread to this list where SWST ignores the the generosity of my first set of calculations about using a modest fleet of 60 Black Ice-type ships, and runs with the upper limit, rather than acknowledging it as such, and then continously ignoring the more impressive feats of the E-1701 and E-D to move super-massive objects.
-Mike

I acknowledged it quite clearly as an upper limit:

However generous that may be, it is still ten thousand times more than the power generation of the Enterprise.

However, I have stated that your upper limit is still by definition within reason, and it's ten thousand times the power generation of the Enterprise.

[Kor_Dahar_Master]

........

Deal with these first:

1. DEATH STAR POWER OUTPUT YOUR CLAIM:

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... &start=180

The Death Star circumnavigating Yavin 4 in a matter of minutes, calculating out to 67 km/s, requiring about e29 joules of energy assuming a density similar to a GSC.

Not only does this assume the DS came out of hyperspace stationary, it ignores the fact that without mass lightening and inertial dapening the DS would tear itself apart under such thrust.

2. SHIELDING:

Horray!

Star Trek shields


"RELICS" is courtesy of Mike Wong, here:

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tec ... ield1.html

So let me get this straight:

The Enterprise was FINE as it was entering orbit of the star. However, a solar flare hit it, and its shields went down to 23%.

At 150,000 km.

1. The ship was at 150,000km for a significant amount of time prior to the flare that caused them to raise the shields.

2.The ship and its main systems were already damaged so when the shields were raised they were at 23%.

3. It is clearly stated that the solar flares are going to get worse and yet the shields could last 3 hours of pounding from them (so if the flare knocked them down to 23% then how could they last 3 hours of even worse pounding).