OK so what is the real deal in UFP power vs Wars & other

[enigma]

I'm of the thought that Trek actually lags behind big time against SW. And at the moment you guys are arguing Trek at it's peak against an earlier point in time in the SW universe.

In TDIC, did that planet have cloud cover? If so, then the explosions seen was just a momentary ripple in the atmosphere. If any damage was done then somehow most of the force went towards the core instead of outwards into the atmosphere. I mean, if the planet had 30% of the surface destroyed, then surely you'd see a more lasting effect than a few atmospheric ripples.

But if what we saw was the impact on the planet and there was no cloud cover then it is even worse for Trek. The before and after the attack showed no difference in the appearance of the planet except for the shockwaves. If they've really destroyed 30% of the planet's crust then you should see a lot of magma being shot up. Instead what most likely happened is that they've basically tilled the soil for the Founder farmers. :) lol

Whereas at least in SW EU novels, it is stated that in a day an ISD can liquefy a planet's crust. A lot less if there was the same number of ISD as there were Rommie\Cardies.

Also, destroying a planet's crust uses a lot less energy than liquefying it.

Now something different. in a TNG episode, the E-D fired some special torpedos (or was doing some exercises, I don't remember which), instead of detonating the torpedo continued flying and went into an asteroid field. Data mentions that they could use a shuttle to retrieve the torpedo but the Captain refused as he deemed it too dangerous. He thought that traveling through a stationary asteroid field was too dangerous for a shuttle.

But in SW:ANH we see a Empire fleet entering a particularly dangerous and violent asteroid field and blasting away the asteroids as they came. They were doing it was in full speed.

Again, the ship numbers for the OR and the start of the GE are obviously small because the OR (as far as I know) didn't need to maintain a large fleet as I think they didn't have anything to fear. And for the GE, they were just gearing up. Whereas many corporations maintained their own military and naval force whereas later on the GE assumed (for the most part) full control of the galaxy's military and naval forces.

Try pitting the Feds against the Galactic Empire at their peak and see what would happen.

[Jedi Master Spock]

In TDIC, did that planet have cloud cover? If so, then the explosions seen was just a momentary ripple in the atmosphere. If any damage was done then somehow most of the force went towards the core instead of outwards into the atmosphere. I mean, if the planet had 30% of the surface destroyed, then surely you'd see a more lasting effect than a few atmospheric ripples.

What we see is puzzling and curious, but also very dramatic. We see glowing rings of something expand at a rate in the 0.1-1% of lightspeed range. Even if these were just atmospheric ripples, and we discarded all dialog-related information about TDIC, those yields would be ridiculously high. We're talking about a couple orders of magnitude more than what I calculate for SOE.

I prefer to discard TDIC as an unusually high incident.

Whereas at least in SW EU novels, it is stated that in a day an ISD can liquefy a planet's crust. A lot less if there was the same number of ISD as there were Rommie\Cardies.

What novel are you talking about?

Also, destroying a planet's crust uses a lot less energy than liquefying it.

Depends on what you mean by destroy. To remove it in order to get at the mantle, as in TDIC, means either vaporizing it or removing it from the universe or pulling it up out of the planet's gravity well. In any of those cases, we should assume a greater energy requirement.

Now something different. in a TNG episode, the E-D fired some special torpedos (or was doing some exercises, I don't remember which), instead of detonating the torpedo continued flying and went into an asteroid field. Data mentions that they could use a shuttle to retrieve the torpedo but the Captain refused as he deemed it too dangerous. He thought that traveling through a stationary asteroid field was too dangerous for a shuttle.

But in SW:ANH we see a Empire fleet entering a particularly dangerous and violent asteroid field and blasting away the asteroids as they came. They were doing it was in full speed.

It's TESB that we see the Imperial fleet go through an asteroid field, and they are quite concerned about doing it. In fact, one loses a bridge tower in the movie, and the novelization refers to a battleship being destroyed, while the Millenium Falcon - much closer to the shuttle in question - has extremely low odds of successfully navigating the field.

Again, the ship numbers for the OR and the start of the GE are obviously small because the OR (as far as I know) didn't need to maintain a large fleet as I think they didn't have anything to fear. And for the GE, they were just gearing up. Whereas many corporations maintained their own military and naval force whereas later on the GE assumed (for the most part) full control of the galaxy's military and naval forces.

IMO, the OR fleet was restricted by their use of a clone-based military. We see normal human recruitment for the navy by ROTS, and also a shift from a "sham" war (where Palpatine was directing both sides) to large scale military occupation and suppression of an uncontrolled resistance.

Try pitting the Feds against the Galactic Empire at their peak and see what would happen.

IMO, the Galactic Empire is technologically disadvantaged.