A challenge to Trekkies

[Mr. Oragahn]

Actually, we do have 1 megaton in RotS novelization.

We *might* have one, and with the higher end of the spoon.

[StarWarsStarTrek]

I'm very busy guys, so sorry if I don't respond for a while. However, two revelations from LOTF Sacrafice:

The Yuuzhang Vong were able to make moon sized craters in planets
A well capable Supreme Commander thought about turning planets into slag

This supports the presence of "turning planet surfaces into slag" BDZs.

Again, sorry, I'm very busy.

[Mike DiCenso]

One problem we have if we ignore the EU then is that SW ships go in the hundreds, in not millions, of c, since only in the EU do we see really short speeds, or the mention of Hyperlanes.
So if the EU is not Canon, than SW ships go hundreds of thousands to millions of c and don't need Hyperlanes to do so...

Ignoring the EU won't make hyperlanes "go away" since the higher canon TCW mentions them in the movie, and that blockading or mining them renders them unusuable and will effectively isolate entire sections of the galaxy in the process.
-Mike

[Mike DiCenso]

I'm very busy guys, so sorry if I don't respond for a while. However, two revelations from LOTF Sacrafice:

The Yuuzhang Vong were able to make moon sized craters in planets
A well capable Supreme Commander thought about turning planets into slag

This supports the presence of "turning planet surfaces into slag" BDZs.

Again, sorry, I'm very busy.

I'm afraid it does not since the method of such a thing, assuming you are correct, is not specified. Did they use some weird technobabble? Did they accelerate a rock to a fraction of c? Divert a 6-10 km rock so that it crashed into it? Elaborate, please.
-Mike

[Praeothmin]

Ignoring the EU won't make hyperlanes "go away" since the higher canon TCW mentions them in the movie, and that blockading or mining them renders them unusuable and will effectively isolate entire sections of the galaxy in the process.
-Mike

It makes travel longer, but still very fast, and the movies still yield impressive speeds...

[Who is like God arbour]

Ignoring the EU won't make hyperlanes "go away" since the higher canon TCW mentions them in the movie, and that blockading or mining them renders them unusuable and will effectively isolate entire sections of the galaxy in the process.
-Mike

It makes travel longer, but still very fast,

Really?
How fast?
Do you have examples?

and the movies still yield impressive speeds...

Yes, on said hyperlanes.

But even than that claim is more than questionable because we have neither a distance nor a time for a flight.

[Khas]

I'm very busy guys, so sorry if I don't respond for a while. However, two revelations from LOTF Sacrafice:

The Yuuzhang Vong were able to make moon sized craters in planets
A well capable Supreme Commander thought about turning planets into slag

This supports the presence of "turning planet surfaces into slag" BDZs.

Again, sorry, I'm very busy.

I'm afraid it does not since the method of such a thing, assuming you are correct, is not specified. Did they use some weird technobabble? Did they accelerate a rock to a fraction of c? Divert a 6-10 km rock so that it crashed into it? Elaborate, please.
-Mike

Knowing the Vong, they used the dovin basals, which produce super-gravity fields, to re-direct planetoids into worlds. They once managed to knock a moon from orbit, killing Chewbacca in the process.

[Praeothmin]

Wilga, there is no Hyperlane between Endor and Sullust, "hundreds" of LY apart...

If this afternoon is the same afternoon and scenes from the movie are all sequential, and Endor's day is of similar length to Earth's, then the Rebel fleet took roughly 6-12 hours to arrive. The distance to Sullust should be between 200 and 1,000 light years, meaning that the total speed is 400-4,000 light years per day, or 150,000-1,500,000c.
As per the Maps in every source I found, Endor and Sullust are 1/10th of the galaxy diameter away from one another, so 1000 LY is closer to actual number.
So 1000 LY in 12 hours is 730,000c.

*The previous paragraph is information which comes mostly from SFJ's database.*

[Mike DiCenso]

I'm very busy guys, so sorry if I don't respond for a while. However, two revelations from LOTF Sacrafice:

The Yuuzhang Vong were able to make moon sized craters in planets
A well capable Supreme Commander thought about turning planets into slag

This supports the presence of "turning planet surfaces into slag" BDZs.

Again, sorry, I'm very busy.

I'm afraid it does not since the method of such a thing, assuming you are correct, is not specified. Did they use some weird technobabble? Did they accelerate a rock to a fraction of c? Divert a 6-10 km rock so that it crashed into it? Elaborate, please.
-Mike

Knowing the Vong, they used the dovin basals, which produce super-gravity fields, to re-direct planetoids into worlds. They once managed to knock a moon from orbit, killing Chewbacca in the process.

I know about that method, it's from "Vector Prime", but I wanted SWST to answer to that, rather than anyone else since in doing so he would have to admit that there was a method that did not involve turbolaser-like weapons. Ah well.
-Mike

[User1462]

One problem we have if we ignore the EU then is that SW ships go in the hundreds, in not millions, of c, since only in the EU do we see really short speeds, or the mention of Hyperlanes.
So if the EU is not Canon, than SW ships go hundreds of thousands to millions of c and don't need Hyperlanes to do so...

Ignoring the EU won't make hyperlanes "go away" since the higher canon TCW mentions them in the movie, and that blockading or mining them renders them unusuable and will effectively isolate entire sections of the galaxy in the process.
-Mike

And this supports my contention that hyperlanes are warp-conduits.

[Who is like God arbour]

Wilga, there is no Hyperlane between Endor and Sullust, "hundreds" of LY apart...

Really?

Sanctuary Pipeline says something?

• • • • The Sanctuary Pipeline was a hyperlane that was created around 3 to 4 ABY. The Pipeline was created by the Galactic Empire as a route to quickly transport supplies and materials to the construction site of the second Death Star. The hyperspace route ran from Sullust, which was located right on the Rimma Trade Route, to the Forest Moon of Endor, which was the site chosen to build the massive space station.
        
        [...]
        
        The Pipeline was actually the expansion of a smaller previous hyperlane, the Silvestri Trace. The route's name reflected its purpose, as the primary pipeline for building materials on their way to the Sanctuary Moon, the name given by the Imperials to the moon that the Death Star orbited. The Rebel Alliance utilized this route for transfer to the assault on the second Death Star.

[mojo]

mindblowing that you guys would bother to go on after the first page of this thread. i managed to read three pages before i had to stop in disgust. this jackass just ignores every valid point and keeps repeating the same drivel over and over. god almighty. you're a bunch of saints. if it were my forum i would have banned him outright after the first few DOZEN times you fulfilled his original requirements for conceding the point. and i love how eventually he just gets more and more 'busy' and can't be bothered to even try anymore.

[Khas]

You should also get a load of Jason over on ASVS. What this guy is to SW, Jason is to ST. I honestly think that the two of them should debate.

[mojo]

nah. they'd both just be too 'busy' after awhile.

[StarWarsStarTrek]

mindblowing that you guys would bother to go on after the first page of this thread. i managed to read three pages before i had to stop in disgust. this jackass just ignores every valid point and keeps repeating the same drivel over and over. god almighty. you're a bunch of saints. if it were my forum i would have banned him outright after the first few DOZEN times you fulfilled his original requirements for conceding the point. and i love how eventually he just gets more and more 'busy' and can't be bothered to even try anymore.

Unlike you, not everybody has time to sit down and answer a huge amount of posts that take literally close to an hour to answer.

How about this; anybody who really wants me to answer one of their posts, link me to it/show me where it is or re-post it again. Or maybe PM me and I'll publicly reply to it here.

And for the YV moon sized holes weapon, it was one of their weapons, however there's no reason to believe that they were any more powerful than the weapons that regular factions in Star Wars use. Fact is that the YV had such powerful weapons, yet were defeated by the Galactic Alliance; obviously the Alliance's weapons were not so far behind (in fact, evidence suggests that standard Star Wars weapons were superior to YV bio weapons) by several orders of magnitude, or else they would have lost.