Star Wars vs Star Trek shields

[Picard]

He seems to be getting his "facts" and "info" from SDN, be it site or forum, so... I doubt he would be able to get such amount of bullshit on his own.

Picard, explain and back up your assertion that gravity, the weakest of the four fundamental forces, is stronger than magnetism, when I can easily disprove this with basic experimentation. A magnet the size of my hand and attract up a lump of iron, counteracting the gravitational pull of the Earth.

You are confusing NATURAL gravity with ARTIFICIAL gravity.

In NATURAL gravity, gravitational force depends on mass of objects. In artificial one, it depends simply on number of gravitons, which can be artificially controlled. In short - you are bullshitting without understanding what you are talking about.

Besides, ver heard of black holes? Light is form of electromagnetism; more accurately, electromagnetic radiation. Yet even it is affected by gravity in various ways, to point where it can't escape black hole.

[Lucky]

You accuse me of using SDN for info (when half of your links refer directly to darkstar, who does not seem to have a science degree), only to use Star Trek; yes, Star Trek as evidence for your scientific claim?

I really think you need to rewrite this part of your post because it really does not make sense. Among other things, you are using an Ad Hominem that has nothing to do with my post.
http://www.sjsu.edu/depts/itl/graphics/adhom/adhom.html

What makes you think Mike Wong has any significant schooling in the sciences that DarkStar or myself does not have? Mike Wong is not a physicist, astronomer, ect... you know.

Why not use a real physics textbook? Obviously in Star Trek gravity is stronger, because ST science is superficial and focuses on whatever sounds cooler.

Well, you would have to prove gravity is stronger in Star Trek since it is your claim, and you need to prove magnetism effects all thing equally since you claim magnetism is more powerful then gravity by stating a magnet can easily lift anything from a hunk of iron to wood.

My claim is that Star Trek shields bend the path of things around the ship as gravity does in real life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_lens

You actually just used ST to back up a real life science claim, which is also a blatant example of circular reasoning; using ST science to support ST theories.

This is basic physics we are talking about. Gravitational lensing caused by the Enterprise's shields hiding the Enterprise. Kirk's Enterprise could hide from everything from 20th century radar to the mark one eyeball with just their shields being active. Similarly Picard's Enterprise does the same thing when sitting in orbit over even near warp civilizations unseen.

Here is a screen cap that shows gravity based shields for Star Trek.
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/thum ... ?album=109

Here are two quotes that show gravitational lensing by the shields.

TOS "Tomorrow is Yesterday"

SPOCK: We've achieved a stable orbit out of Earth's atmosphere. Our deflectors are operative, enough to prevent our being picked up again as a UFO. And Mister Scott wishes to speak to you about the engines.

TNG "The Outrageous Okona"

Worf: "Captain, they are now locking lasers on us."
Riker: "Lasers?!?"
Worf: "Yes, sir."
Picard: "Lasers can't even penetrate our navigation shields. Don't they know that?"
Riker: "Regulations do call for yellow alert."
Picard: "Hmm, a very old regulation. Well, make it so Number One. And, reduce speed . . . drop main shields, as well."
Riker: "May I ask why, sir?"
Picard: "In case we decide to surrender to them, Number One."
Riker: (laugh)
Worf: (growl)

And, later:

Picard: "They could fire 'till their lasers ran dry; they wouldn't hurt the Enterprise."