Where is the proof that SWverse people abhor Teleportation?

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Post by PunkMaister » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:55 pm

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Mr. Oragahn wrote: In all cases, the stargates remained perfectly functional. Let's also point to Beachhead and the glowing stargate still working and letting Ori ships fly through it without problem.
Stargates I do not consider teleportation in the sense we are talking about since it clearly involves transport via wormhole and not by dematerialzing an object or person and reassembling them at the other location. So no redefining an orange into a pomegrante, please. However the Asgard do possess similar transporter technology to the Federation's transporters. So what accidents have they had and in how many transports?
-Mike
You don't get it? Do you? Even though evidence has been brought clearly showing the fact that people are indeed demolecurazided or in other words dematerialized and sent from point A to Point B to be rematerialized at the receiving Stargate you still deny is teleportation! Darn you are dense!

Mike DiCenso wrote:The Galactic barrier in the Star Trek universe generally makes extra-galactic travel a potentially hazardous undertaking.
-Mike
Wow so Star Trek has a galactic barrier of sorts that prevents them from going off the galaxy just like they do in SW! Interesting, I wonder what were both ST and SW writers thinking when they cooked that limitation up and more importantly why?

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Post by Mr. Oragahn » Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:21 pm

PunkMaister wrote:
Mike DiCenso wrote:
Mr. Oragahn wrote: In all cases, the stargates remained perfectly functional. Let's also point to Beachhead and the glowing stargate still working and letting Ori ships fly through it without problem.
Stargates I do not consider teleportation in the sense we are talking about since it clearly involves transport via wormhole and not by dematerialzing an object or person and reassembling them at the other location. So no redefining an orange into a pomegrante, please. However the Asgard do possess similar transporter technology to the Federation's transporters. So what accidents have they had and in how many transports?
-Mike
You don't get it? Do you? Even though evidence has been brought clearly showing the fact that people are indeed demolecurazided or in other words dematerialized and sent from point A to Point B to be rematerialized at the receiving Stargate you still deny is teleportation! Darn you are dense!
Mike DiCenso wrote:The Galactic barrier in the Star Trek universe generally makes extra-galactic travel a potentially hazardous undertaking.
-Mike
Wow so Star Trek has a galactic barrier of sorts that prevents them from going off the galaxy just like they do in SW! Interesting, I wonder what were both ST and SW writers thinking when they cooked that limitation up and more importantly why?
Geez, please tone it down a notch.

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Post by Mike DiCenso » Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:25 pm

PunkMaister wrote: You don't get it? Do you? Even though evidence has been brought clearly showing the fact that people are indeed demolecurazided or in other words dematerialized and sent from point A to Point B to be rematerialized at the receiving Stargate you still deny is teleportation! Darn you are dense!
Watch, PM. Calling someone names is bad form here, especially as the burden of proof is still on you, and we have seen many times in the SG franchise POVs of people travelling through the wormholes the Stargates generate, indicating that if the SGs do covert people to energy, it is a partial state.

You need to cite actual evidence of this transporter effect. The Stargates, then, assuming you are correct, would still be an example of telepod-to-telepod transporter, not telepod-to-wherever as the Federationa and Asgardian types are.
Mike DiCenso wrote:The Galactic barrier in the Star Trek universe generally makes extra-galactic travel a potentially hazardous undertaking.
-Mike
PunkMaister wrote: Wow so Star Trek has a galactic barrier of sorts that prevents them from going off the galaxy just like they do in SW! Interesting, I wonder what were both ST and SW writers thinking when they cooked that limitation up and more importantly why?
Yes, they both do, but the SW EU writers are likely borrowing off the ST one since the ST GB was first seen in an episode that aired in 1966.
-Mike

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Post by Mr. Oragahn » Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:33 pm

Mike DiCenso wrote:
Mr. Oragahn wrote: In all cases, the stargates remained perfectly functional. Let's also point to Beachhead and the glowing stargate still working and letting Ori ships fly through it without problem.
Stargates I do not consider teleportation in the sense we are talking about since it clearly involves transport via wormhole and not by dematerialzing an object or person and reassembling them at the other location. So no redefining an orange into a pomegrante, please.
Please re-read what I wrote. It definitely proves that it alters/destroys any matter for the travel and rebuilds it on the other end.

It's a teleportation method that uses wormholes for travel, instead of using realspace or subspace.
The rings are like stargate, safe that they don't use wormholes.
The wormholes are just there to cross distances faster.
However the Asgard do possess similar transporter technology to the Federation's transporters. So what accidents have they had and in how many transports?
-Mike
Zero.

Now we can talk about Spaceballs's teleportation technology.

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Post by PunkMaister » Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:36 pm

Mike DiCenso wrote:Watch, PM. Calling someone names is bad form here, especially as the burden of proof is still on you, and we have seen many times in the SG franchise POVs of people travelling through the wormholes the Stargates generate, indicating that if the SGs do covert people to energy, it is a partial state.
Sorry but it is honestly irritating that you totally ignore the evidence so fat presented including Teal'c having to be saved when he failed to materialize on the SGC's own Stargate. But here is more evidence:
Thirty Eight Minutes - Stackhouse mans a Puddle Jumper station when it becomes lodged in the Stargate. Demolecularized behind the event horizon, Stackhouse is saved only when the team dislodges the ship so it can continue to Atlantis.
taken from GateWorld Omnipedia
Mike DiCenso wrote:The Stargates, then, assuming you are correct, would still be an example of telepod-to-telepod transporter, not telepod-to-wherever as the Federationa and Asgardian types are.
I never claimed they were like the UFP or Asgard ones but that they were in fact teleportation devices in this case a telepod to telepod long range teleportation devices/network.
Mike DiCenso wrote: Yes, they both do, but the SW EU writers are likely borrowing off the ST one since the ST GB was first seen in an episode that aired in 1966.
-Mike
Probably, still does not answer why come up with such a limitation in the first place...
Mr. Oragahn wrote:Now we can talk about Spaceballs's teleportation technology.
LMAO! Funny all I recall from them is the Shartz and the giant vacuum oh and Pizza the Hott! LOL

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Post by Praeothmin » Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:53 pm

Punkmaister wrote:Sorry but it is honestly irritating that you totally ignore the evidence so far presented
This is funny coming from you, since you've shown this exact pattern in this very thread concerning the Teleportation of Voyager and its mass...

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Post by PunkMaister » Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:38 pm

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Punkmaister wrote:Sorry but it is honestly irritating that you totally ignore the evidence so far presented
This is funny coming from you, since you've shown this exact pattern in this very thread concerning the Teleportation of Voyager and its mass...

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Which is something that was long ago conceeded, so what you are now trying to get even?

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Post by Praeothmin » Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:52 pm

No, I'm just showing you that you should not point fingers when the finger could just as easily be pointed at you, that's all...

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Post by PunkMaister » Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:56 pm

Praeothmin wrote:No, I'm just showing you that you should not point fingers when the finger could just as easily be pointed at you, that's all...
Ah the old Tu-quoque argument...

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Post by Praeothmin » Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:02 pm

Except I hope you don't do to me what Brutus did to Ceasar... ;)

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Post by PunkMaister » Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:43 pm

Praeothmin wrote:Except I hope you don't do to me what Brutus did to Ceasar... ;)
I seriously doubt it will come to that *conceals knife* Just kidding, LMAO

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Post by Praeothmin » Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:49 pm

:)

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Post by Mr. Oragahn » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:01 am

Praeothmin wrote:No, I'm just showing you that you should not point fingers when the finger could just as easily be pointed at you, that's all...
You'd break the finger doing that.

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