Whichever mod made this thread, I would appreciate it if you were to adjust the thread title to "allegations of SWST trolling" rather than the loaded title.
To all those who accuse me of trolling, please read this. Thank you.
Did you know that Breetai openly refused to accept the
film-novels as evidence, even after I told him that Lucas considers it right below the films in hierarchy? That he actually stated that
he doesn't care about what Lucasfilms states and only about "what is on screen"?
To give you a show of the amazing rationality and maturity of our admiral:
SWST you just openly insult and flame the board while dishonestly ignoring the fact that we have all destroyed your arguments before, that we don't say Trek wins because we like it we say it wins because you have consistently failed to prove other wise.
so you return commit a bannable offense and lie smoar
okay cool: fuck Chee and his canon policy he's not Lucas and Lucas own statements are superior evidence: Picard and DS have proven multiple times he considers the EU separate.But if you want your silly little bait thread to be indulged, and it is a bait thread you are blatantly and utterly guilty of trolling and baiting here.
with six months? 25,000 Dominion ships swarm alliance turf virus bomb and bombard the fuck out of everything and kamikaze shipyards and other such things. While the alliance is dealing with it's own idiocy incompetence and catastrophic loss of life and epidemics The Dominion sends another fleet.
or you know if you want me to answer in your language: OMG GAIZ LIAAK TOTALLY GT CANON UR AMTOSPHERES WRAPPP STURFING!! FTW ST HAXOR PWN JOO NUUB
know what's really awesome? SWST is again guilty of lying that's three times in this thread, three warnings Mike could have issued to ban him yet he has not for some reason.
any ways SWSt is being cowardly again refusing to answer posts brought towards him. but onto the lying: Wolf 359 you know is not indicative of the Federations war time capability you know this, you know this because ds9 shows battles where dozens to hundreds of ships are lost per battle yet they keep on tugging. you claiming they can't hurl 1,200 ships at the GFFA easily is dishonesty on your part.
Guilty!!! GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY..
Compared to:
Breetai, I recall earlier, in one of the threads in which you were the OP, in which you complained to me about contesting one of your thread parameters banning the EU on the grounds that it was your thread, and therefore your rules. Please do not apply a double standard. I also ask you to PM me over any complaints over the OP, not openly flame me over it.
Now, care to actually debate the topic?
Breetai:
If you really want me to respond to you, you have to show evidence that you're going to welcome a logical, civil debate. In order for that to happen:
1. Stop including an insult directed at me, a call for me to be banned, accusations of me "trolling" or "lying" in every single paragraph. It's not productive and does not make you look tough. At least Mike Wong is amazing at rhetorical speech and sounds cool when he does it, especially since he intertwines it with actually arguments and substance. Even darkstar is decent at this. You are not.
2. I'm no grammar nazi, but your prose should at least be legible.
3. Provide evidence to support your claims. Like, for example, your claim that 100 Federation vessels could blow the Death Star into smithereens. You pull this out of nowhere and provide not the slightest evidence to support it. Indeed, even if the Death Star were completely unshielded and made out of glass (while somehow not collapsing), 100 starships would be unlikely to destroy it. You don't understand how massive the battle station is.
4. When I rebute your comment or demand for additional evidence, do not reply with anything similar to:
"I already did"
"ROFLAMO troll."
"Why should I?"
"Find it yourself."
"It's obvious."
"Bullshit."
"That's just fan-wank."
(all of these are common in that they are either logical fallacies or lack any supporting evidence to back them up)
Which is what you always do. I'm not talking about you being someone that dodges around the point or makes stupid rebuttals. You are the only person in this board that literally refuses to give evidence when asked to straight up. And don't counter by claiming that I "Ignore stuff", I'm not talking about missing a few posts or not responding to everything. You literally respond to my post, but then reply to essentially every point I make, request I make or piece of evidence I make with something similar to one of the phrases above. You have literally refused to give evidence. You don't even pretend to have any; you'd reply by saying something akin to "LOL" or "you're trolling "(apparently, asking for evidence is 'trolling').
Please, instead of responding to this with a self-righteous defense of your dignity and an attack on my honesty and accusations of "trolling", actually make a decently formatted list of all of the points related to this thread you want me to address. You will prove far more and make me look bad more easily than ironically refusing to do so. All of my requests are what is basic etiquette for any reasonable debate, and should not arouse controversies.
I ask:
ME
[And you can prove this, right? Back it up with evidence?
Direct response
you donĀ“t know how toi read?
refuses to provide evidence
ME
[My point is that even if Gandalf is more powerful than a Jedi, said Jedi has a lightsaber and speed blitzing capability.
beside a one off sm vs fl feat from obiwan ansd qui gon in phantom no jedi has shown speed blitz capacity so no
WTF?
ME And you can explain how, right? Elaborate, maybe?
Dodges the question
it certainly helps to catch you making a completely invalid analogy
ME
"you know when" is not evidence.
Very transparent stalling tactic
I'm trying to save you humiliation here
ME I did, and I did not find your evidence. Unless if you can provide said evidence, your claim is unsupported by facts.
More refusals
then you have very selective reading comprehension
ME
Saruman's spell is not combat applicable. The storm he created, while impressive, took time and was not focused enough to seriously harm a combatant in a small scale engagement like this one.
Changes his stance by dismissing the importance of a feat that he himself brought up
when he can voice fuck the environment into reigning down lighting on the council temple when him and Galadriel and likely Gandalf as well can just..bust up the council tower?
ME Evidence.
tells me that giving evidence to your debating opponent "isn't how it works".
you've been told now that this isn't how it works
ME Actually, Anakin Skywalker survived a pretty long fall at terminal velocity and landed on a moving airspeeder, plus he timed it exactly so that he would land on the right airspeeder at the right time.
No, this isn't cut off. He actually just stated this and left it at that.
that wasn't the same thing
ME And since the burden of proof is on you, your claim still remains unsupported.
I provided proof you ignored it..so now its not on me lol
ME When else would they have a need to use it?
No, this is not cut off. He made no elaboration beyond this.
your kidding right?