Gray area?sonofccn wrote:Well you made it sound like you had lost all faith and he should just give it up for what amounts to a single poster skating by in the gray area of the rules.Mr. Oragahn wrote:It wasn't meant to be harsh. I just don't see the point for Praeothmin (and even Mike) to remain mods if, first, they obviously can't enjoy their "job" of keeping this place clean (a place they appreciate, obviously), and secondly, if they're condemned to a half-arsed and very selective level of surveillance where they have to turn heads in light of certain misbehaviours.
I am of the opinion having Mike and Praeothmin "on guard" is better even if they are having trouble "convicting" SWST than no guard at all so to speak.
There's been enough evidence to ban him several times over.
The evidence of the confirmed cases was so strong that he actually got banned twice.
I don't think there's any grayer area beyond the obvious and needless fudging that's going on.
Do you realize that the problem of convicting SWST doesn't even come from an issue about the understanding of the rules?
From day one I could tell he was a troll, and everybody knew it some few weeks later when everybody had the privilege of biting into his carcass.
So what's the cryptic code of conduct I'm not privy to?
Bull-fucking-shit.The issue is that one insult every two weeks is against the board rules, while SWST may break their spirit he mostly stays within their confines.Mr. Oragahn wrote:This makes for a very broken system, one that is not very fair. See, I don't think one insult every two weeks (!) hurts that board. In fact, it's just as much a right as being able to speak out your mind. But what SWST does, that is hurting this place.
The rule Mojo quoted is extremely clear in fact, but it takes the mods to actually acknowledge some facts and do a little more work beyond sitting on their hands and pretending all goes well aside from the few OMG outrageous fucks that slip every once in a while.
Until the next one. No doubt that such a policy could very well attract other trolls who will have a pleasure to remain polite while shitting on basic notions about respect and rules to follow as to nourish constructive and pleasant discourse.If that is how you feel. Personally I don't find him that big of an issue as you and the rest find him. An irritant yes but only so. One that will leave/fade away at somepoint in time.Mr. Oragahn wrote:Oh shit, if this doesn't get solved presto, I'm gone off this place.
There's no point continuing this dance.
Over-reacting? You mean, to compensate the under-reacting from the other side, right?Mike DiCenso wrote:I think you're way over-reacting to SWST. But consider this; if you leave now, his trolling as you call it will have been successful, and the only person to lose out will be you. If you ignore SWST as other people have started doing, he'll go away eventually, or he'll slip up, as he has been recently doing, and get banned. He's only one away from another ban, you know.Mr. Oragahn wrote:Oh shit, if this doesn't get solved presto, I'm gone off this place. I think there's nothing worse than a board that openly supports trolls' drive to disrupt the quality and cohesion of a nice forum in light of whatever stupid testes-less ultra-leftist rule that wants to give any damn retarded cunt in the world a right to endlessly pollute the lives of other correct and kind people.
I'm not going to ignore him. I'm saying that he gets the fuck out of this place, or I do.
Don't make yourself a casualty before then.
Tell me, why didn't you even process the full report I forwarded in this damned thread, as you asked? Being lazy or something?
Or what? Do like Praeothmin said, and only stick to passive radar sweeps on insults, minor or fierce, and let the rest of the crap fly under?
In case you didn't notice, I've already played that exact same silly game, and we've seen where it went : absolutely no-where.
This board is tried. We've reached a state where the mere abrasive coating of strong language seems to prove more critical and endangering than a mystifying challenger of the very fundamentals of reasonable and informative discussion we've enjoyed so far.
I'm not putting this down because something needs to be done and we won't wait to see other trolls repeat that same nonsense.
Yeah, because if it's not very clear to you guys, you're establishing what we call a precedent here. The kind that stinks. The kind that says in bright neon letters: trolls allowed, insults forbidden.