i'll post this here as it seems to be off topic in the other thread
Jedi Master Spock wrote:
I reviewed his recent posting history quite carefully. He has laid out his case civilly with few recent exceptions, and I have no trouble believing that he was making arguments that he believed in, at least during the recent period I'm talking about. I could be wrong; but that's the call I'm making here.
civily? you call that bullheaded ignorance civil? you call repeatedly ignoring other peoples arguments and relentlessly spamming the same bullshit over and over civil? you call blatantly running from debates in a complete act of cowardice to avoid having to man up for his fuck ups civil? you call refusing to give proof while demanding an OCD level of it from the opposition civil?
you seem to think that as long as he does not call some one a name..he's being civil he's a danger and a threat to the stability of your small community, most of these guys no doubt yourself included being vets of many years of vs debating..are you seriously gonna put them through this small fries antics?
I can tell you something else Mith and Kor have made dedicated and civil rebuttals to the guy that have been ignored and trolled to the extent that they had to resort to insults..your staff then proceeded to flag them and not SWST simply put..sir that's bullshit they would never have flamed if it weren't for the guy using your civility laws a shield to hide behind while trolling
aside from them I've probably had the most success curtailing SWST I've demolished his arguments and reduced him to a jibbering wreck...every time he enters this thread he finds the time to cry about my style of replies..he meets when doing his usual wanton and uncorroborated dismissals of other peoples arguments and you know why? for two reasons..I don't put up with his crap at all and I'm willing to take an infraction if it means exposing the guy for what he is
DS recently got infracted for basically getting upset that SWST basically after having his arguments and all his valid points bulldozed through and completely and absolutely irrefutably debunked with no counter what so ever..PRETENDED NONE OF THAT HAPPENED and picked up right where he left off maintaining the same claims for christs sakes that alone merrits a ban
you infracted Darkstar..because he had put up with constant bullshit by this guy with no one bothering to do anything about it and lost his temper? thats nonsense absolute nonsense
the amount of times he's ran from myself and Mister O? to the extent that he flat out ignores us every time we post now? yeah that's called dedicated trolling
Jedi Master Spock wrote:If he believes his own arguments, there's nothing dishonest about that. As far as this being good or bad for the board; I happen to be of the opinion our discussions here are much more productive when we don't all agree with each other and stay civil enough not to shout each other down.
so if I ignore multiple posts repeat constantly the same arguments lie and dodge proof post fan clips as evidence..and constantly play the victim and demand proof others already provided to achieve my goals it's okay so long as I believe in myself? no
see I agree disagreements and Warsies who can actually muster an argument that isn't asinine nor involve blatant dishonesty are much needed assets to this forum..it also wouldn't hurt to have more posters who could contribute to stuff ranging from lord of the rings..to anime..to politics..good posters and all sure that'd be sweet
SWSt does not fit this criteria..
Jedi Master Spock wrote:If you like, Breetai, here is your mission: Prove to me that SWST is trolling; and I will act on it. Use quotes and links extensively to make your case. Imagine you are a prosecutor, and you must prove to the judge the guilt of the accused beyond a reasonable doubt. This will be much more fun for all of us than you deciding to imitate Mojo's tactics.
no, do you wanna know why? i'm not a god damn prosecutor that'd be preao..or mike I'm the guy who calls the cops (hitting the report button) after some one breaks into his house my job is to simply let you people know there be troll'n afoot in yar boards matey!! it's your job as a staff member to go and seek it out and punish it
to take it a step further Kor O Mith and hell fuck even Mojo provided massive proof of the guys trolling they listed quotes and brought links..and guess what? NOTHING HAPPENED!! when it did happen...some one who rarely is here rarely posts seems to have no clue what's happening on his own board decided that it was unjust..despite us dealing with this fool for months on end
I don't know you but every time I see you post it's always wisely and with information handy..you seem to be the embodiment of everything Darth Wong isn't but pretends he is...you've created for yourself a bastion of civility wisdom and peace in a sea of chaos amidst one of the most hotly contested viciously uncivil debate topics ever for that alone...you have my respect for that truly and my admiration...so please do not take my stance here as being a personal attack on you...I'm not trying to be insulting or vicious it's just I truly do not understand how you and to a lesser extent your staff can be so willing to endure this bullshit..and suffer us to do so and all for what? the only thing I can think of is maybe taking the moral highground to Wong and SDN...but at what cost?
you want me not to do what Mojo did? then don't ask me to do something others have tried dozens of times before and I tried right here in this very thread only to have it reversed...don't shit on your mods..when they finally actually do something about this mess when after months of them letting him get away with this nonsense because he simply wasn't "insulting any one"
But Breetai, doing "the mojo" will not help anything, and if SWST really pisses you off, simply ignore him, as you were told many times...
The more people ignore him, the less of his inane argument we'll see...
NO! never yield to trolls! especially ones as relentless as this one especially when it's a board this small and closely knit..never concede never fall back never ignore them never stop hounding them even if it means taking them down with you, because the moment you do..you basically turn the keys over to them