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Enforcement Policy: KrikSkywalker / SarahStar

Post by Praeothmin » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:31 pm

And a fourth warning has been issued to KirkSkywalker, for originally calling Leon-Caboose a crybaby, in the Reason for a Death Star thread, on page 9...

Therefore, KirkSkywalker gets banned for 2 weeks...

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Re: Enforcement policy: KirkSkywalker

Post by Kor_Dahar_Master » Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:33 pm

Praeothmin wrote:And a fourth warning has been issued to KirkSkywalker, for originally calling Leon-Caboose a crybaby, in the Reason for a Death Star thread, on page 9...

Therefore, KirkSkywalker gets banned for 2 weeks...
Man even i would have learned to behave after the amount of warning this dude has had.

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Re: Enforcement Policy: KrikSkywalker / SarahStar

Post by Praeothmin » Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:58 pm

And after checking things out and learning that SarahStar is another account for KSW, SarahStar also gets banned for two weeks.
Warnings and Bans apply to individuals, not accounts, so an individual with multiple accounts sees warnings being added up from both accounts, and all consequences of these warnings are applied to both accounts equally...
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Re: Enforcement Policy: KrikSkywalker / SarahStar

Post by Kor_Dahar_Master » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:13 pm

Praeothmin wrote:And after checking things out and learning that SarahStar is another account for KSW, SarahStar also gets banned for two weeks.
Warnings and Bans apply to individuals, not accounts...
I figured they were the same but i did not wanna seem paranoid.

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Re: Enforcement Policy: KrikSkywalker / SarahStar

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:05 pm

Kor_Dahar_Master wrote:
Praeothmin wrote:And after checking things out and learning that SarahStar is another account for KSW, SarahStar also gets banned for two weeks.
Warnings and Bans apply to individuals, not accounts...
I figured they were the same but i did not wanna seem paranoid.
You are, but it's endorsed by the staff.
Time for the pills now.

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Re: Enforcement Policy: KrikSkywalker / SarahStar

Post by Kor_Dahar_Master » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:51 pm

Mr. Oragahn wrote:
Kor_Dahar_Master wrote:
Praeothmin wrote:And after checking things out and learning that SarahStar is another account for KSW, SarahStar also gets banned for two weeks.
Warnings and Bans apply to individuals, not accounts...
I figured they were the same but i did not wanna seem paranoid.
You are, but it's endorsed by the staff.
Time for the pills now.
If i take em now do i get to pet the kitty?...

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Re: Enforcement Policy: KrikSkywalker / SarahStar

Post by Mike DiCenso » Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:34 pm

I'm not sure what KSW was trying to pull with the SarahStar sock puppet account. Perhaps be extra annoying? Have an account that would allow him/her/it to stay active after the KSW one got banned again, or actually trying to have a "me too, I agree with him" fake supporter.
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Re: Enforcement Policy: KrikSkywalker / SarahStar

Post by Praeothmin » Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:50 am

I think it was just to avoid possible bans, to "reset" his counter, in a way...
SarahStar did appear before his last ban had ended, after all...

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Re: Enforcement Policy: KrikSkywalker / SarahStar

Post by Tyralak » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:55 pm

And he didn't even proxy in? He must have known he was going to get caught.

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Re: Enforcement Policy: KrikSkywalker / SarahStar

Post by Kor_Dahar_Master » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:58 pm

Tyralak wrote:And he didn't even proxy in? He must have known he was going to get caught.
See now i would consider what he did to be what they call a "sockpuppet".

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Re: Enforcement Policy: KrikSkywalker / SarahStar

Post by Jedi Master Spock » Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:41 pm

Tyralak wrote:And he didn't even proxy in? He must have known he was going to get caught.
Proxies are not foolproof means of going undetected as a duplicate account, but no, KSW/SS did not use a proxy IIRC.

To be fair, KSW/SS wasn't marked as a duplicate for several days. We don't automatically redflag duplicate IPs here.
Praeothmin wrote:I think it was just to avoid possible bans, to "reset" his counter, in a way...
SarahStar did appear before his last ban had ended, after all...
For future reference, ban evasion is in itself an immediately bannable offense adding to the term of the current ban. I did think to put that in our enforcement policy.

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Re: Enforcement Policy: KrikSkywalker / SarahStar

Post by Mike DiCenso » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:56 am

While there's a strong possibility of an attempted ban evasion here, there's nothing absolutely certain about it. So for now, I think I'll error on the side of fairness and assume the SarahStar sock was stupid attempt at a "me too, I agree with him" fake supporter.
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Re: Enforcement Policy: KrikSkywalker / SarahStar

Post by Praeothmin » Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:16 pm

JMS wrote:For future reference, ban evasion is in itself an immediately bannable offense adding to the term of the current ban. I did think to put that in our enforcement policy.
Noted...
MikeD wrote:While there's a strong possibility of an attempted ban evasion here, there's nothing absolutely certain about it. So for now, I think I'll error on the side of fairness and assume the SarahStar sock was stupid attempt at a "me too, I agree with him" fake supporter.
I agree with the fairness, since SarahStar appeared not long before his 2 day ban would have been over...

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Re: Enforcement Policy: KrikSkywalker / SarahStar

Post by Praeothmin » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:57 pm

Two additional warnings for KSW:

In the « What’s accepted in SW canon » thread, the « put down the hashpipe” image in response to Mike’s request for proof of what KSW said, about
RoTS contradicting or precluding elements of the TCW animated series
.

In the same thread, called Lucky “Lucky-duck”.

As always, anyone feeling this is unfair can appeal to either Mike D or JMS...

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Re: Enforcement Policy: KrikSkywalker / SarahStar

Post by Mike DiCenso » Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:20 pm

I concur here, with Praeothmin's action, which I myself felt would not be appropriate to do more than report it since the insults were directed specifically at me, and it would have looked in poor form by having me issue the warnings. I was going to give him a warning for his remarks in "Pro-Trek or pro-Wars?" debate for this roundabout insult directed at Praeothmin:

KirkSkywalker wrote:
Praeothmin wrote:
KirkSkywalker wrote:But it wouldn't be FUNNY....
But it wasn't...
This from the president of the Jerry Lewis fan-club....
ROTFLMAO
To which Praeothmin replied:
Praeothmin wrote:
KirkSkywalker wrote:This from the president of the Jerry Lewis fan-club....
ROTFLMAO
What kind of reply is this?
You're not making any sense...
KirkSkywalker then make this remark:
KirkSkywalker wrote:Neither do French people when they laugh at his movies.
This is in my opinion KSW making a jab at Praeothmin's French Quebec background. However in a PM to me on KSW's behavior, Praeothmin was quite gracious in asking me to overlook this incident. If I misunderstood that, please let me know, and I'll issue him a warning, and probably a ban since KSW has exceeded his limit.
-Mike

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