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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Mike DiCenso » Wed May 30, 2012 1:24 am

Mojo, you need to take a break before you have another meltdown and do something everyone is going to regret. But it was I who gave you a way to save face. Your own posting of our PMs is proof of that with me having to repeat over and over the same damn thing. Go tell the person responsible to stop because it may get you in trouble. It doesn't get any clearer than that.

Sadly, you've never let go the whole SWST thing, and I now have to wonder if you planned this whole matter with your brother to try and attempt to discredit me as a revenge plot.

But you won't get any satisfaction in my warning or banning you. I leave that to Trinoya for the time being.
-Mike

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by TheRainKing777 » Wed May 30, 2012 1:29 am

These rules are from the board rules thread found here: http://starfleetjedi.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2

All quotes are from Mr.DiCenso.

In truth, this board has one rule:

All discourse is to be reasonable, polite, and informative.

To this end, the following simple specific rules should be kept in mind and followed at all times:

1. No flaming. Insults, attacks, and rudeness all serve as obstacles to discourse; they will not be tolerated.
A.
The impression I get is that your brother is a very sore loser and he drew you and Airlocke into this as means to create a way to get back at me.
-Mike
B.
You then childishly attacked me on a personal level rather than do the mature thing.
C.
I did my job. Many times, and unfortunately Mojo got stupid and made his business mine, which in turn made me direct attention away from SWST. It's that simple. -Mike
D.
The fact that some of you guys decided to be total nerf heads over this only made things far worse than it ever had to be.
-Mike
E.
You and especially Mojo went and did some outageously stupid things, even when I and to a lesser extent Praeo were managing to get numerous warnings and eventually bans to stick on SWST.
F.
Exactly, which is what I was able to finally use to make the bans stick with JMS. Being willfully ignorant is not a defense under the law.
-Mike
G.
I don't have the power to do that as a mod. Not that I'd remove SWST's postings anyway, since even if we quotes them here in this thread or kept them in PM posts, it's important to see them in their proper context so it can't be claimed we're just being soreheads about the whole thing.
-Mike
H.
Uh huh. Yeah, this is getting really bizarre now. Whether it's Mojo or his son, or his pet dog. Mojo ultimately is responsible for the behavior of all members of their household. No one in the SocksockJedi account I recently banned, made any attempt to separate or identify themselves as anyone other than Mojo.
I.
And that is why you fail.
-Mike
J.
So instead of doing the equivalent of setting up video cameras and getting eye witnesses to coroborate your accustation, you throw a tantrum and go out to commit vandalism and assault, which in turn gets you arrested locked up, and distracts the police (mods) from further pursuing the investigation against the person you accused.
K.
So, would you like to put your foot in your proverbial mouth again?
-Mike
L.
Breetai, but I really must agree that you refrain from such behavior since it only makes you look like a hypocrite,


2. No spamming. Posts devoid of content are subject to deletion.
3. Stay on topic. If you must digress a great deal, create a new thread to deal with the digression. Discussion not suited to the forum being used should be brought to another forum.
4. Obey all rules specific to the forum section. Some forum sections have additional rules.
5. When in doubt, do what the moderation staff said to.
6. Act in good faith. Trolling, dishonesty, and other forms of insincere behavior may be penalized at our discretion.
A. Who acts against the mods? In this thread alone you have Mr.DiCenso making accusations that are completely unfounded while lacking any evidence toward them whatsoever.
B.
There's no "weirdness" Mojo in asking you to tell whomever it is to stop trolling the board. I thought I'd made that clear to you, and by asking it in a roundabout fashion that I was, I thought I was being nice in giving you an out. Save face if you will by not implicating you. But since in you've admitted in a way that you and your brother essentially planned all this, it remains to be seen what comes of this.
I. What Mojo said, "Hey, you should check out this website. There are some cool people and you like Star Trek and Star Wars. You should come see it."
II. What Mr.DiCenso thinks was said, "Hey, we should go to this board together with Airlocke and just be complete jack-asses. THEN we should rebel against anyone who goes against us. MUAHAHAHAAHA!" Who acts this way? Seriously...
C.
But your brother it looks like couldn't let it go.
I. Isn't this line alone clear in Mr.DiCenso's vendetta? If not continue to more examples here:
D.
The impression I get is that your brother is a very sore loser and he drew you and Airlocke into this as means to create a way to get back at me.
-Mike
E.
Mojo could have prevented all of this a year ago by staying out of the way and doing as Mr. Oragahn and others on this board did by helping document SWST's behavior.
F.
You call me a bully, your brother goes off attacking anyone they perceive as an authority figure who does not do what they like, which is let them get away with whatever they want to do.
G.
It's there for all to see and on top of that, neither you or your brother have found all that much sympathy on the board as a whole because of that.
H.
No such thing. Give it a rest, Mojo. I would also point out that demanding a concession from someone is a violation of the rules JMS set forth, and that is precisely what you are doing here.
-Mike
I. Didn't Mr.DiCenso just demand a concession from me here:
The best thing is let this go and go have a cold one IRL. It's not worth it.
-Mike
For that matter it almost seems like a threat. Why isn't it worth it to seek out judgement on anyone? If they have nothing to fear of truth than why should it seem threatening?
I.
And the insanity continues on, Mojo.
J.
Normally I'd have had Praeo and JMS handle this, as I admittedly am too close to what's going on.
I. I seriously wish Mr.DiCenso had kept this mentality. Here he publicly admits that he is too close to the situation with Mojo to rationally and objectively handle the situation himself. Yet he continues to do so uninhibited.
K.
and between everything that's been going on, my patience is at it's end.
-Mike
I. Here we have Mike again saying that not only is he not able to handle it objectively but that he doesn't have the patience to handle the situation rationally either. So why did he?


The following are very good pieces of advice:

1. Personal information is irrelevant - yours or someone else's.
A. I never told anyone publicly I was Mojo's brother. Mojo said that and I don't blame him for that. I do however blame Mr.DiCenso for not asking me if I was okay with that before he continued to repeat it. That is an invasion of my privacy that he has no rights to. As is mentioned here, it is irrelevant. I think it's interesting that Mr.DiCenso forces Mojo to repeat personal things about himself publicly just so he can avoid being banned. Has he done this to anyone else?
2. Take a deep breath, think, and read carefully before replying.
A. Mr.DiCenso takes all of this very personally. Yes, he hides it fairly well but look at the last few pages of this thread alone and notice how nervous and upset he gets over the small issue of the truth about him being revealed. Accusations, insults, sarcasm, etc. Yes a normal member of the board might be doing things but he is a mod. This is not conduct befitting of an officer.
3. Check spelling and grammar before posting. If you have a lot of trouble with that (or with server lag), consider writing your posts up with a word processor first. Spellcheck, grammar check, and then copy and paste.
4. If you're just repeating what you (or someone else) just said, it's probably not worth posting.
A.
As for addressing your accusations, I've long done that before. I've explained all I need and my wasting time continually repeating verbatim what's already been said, and repeating Trinoya's findings is also a waste. It's there for all to see and on top of that, neither you or your brother have found all that much sympathy on the board as a whole because of that.
I. There is another lesson to be learned from Mr.DiCenso's mistakes. Again this is a rule that was posted clearly and he admits to repeating himself. The problem here is that he's not answering the questions, he's just saying that he did and that he has to repeat himself in a way to dodge having to answer anything. A lot of leaders will do this when they realized they've painted themselves into a corner.
5. If you just want to post up information, consider the Starfleet Jedi Open Database. We could always use more contributors.
6. If you feel the moderators have acted unjustly, you are welcome to make an appeal in private to the administrator - but have all your ducks in a row. Don't waste my time with unfounded complaints.
A. Alright so I have appealed to the administrators but haven't received a response. It has been a short while (a few days) and I understand that life will make it difficult to be quick about these things so I can't blame the admin. I can however say that these are issues that have long been a problem. I could reach into other threads and topics very easily to find more examples but to what end? Every point that needed to be made wasn't made but I think enough have to make a strong case. So here is the evidence, more than enough to make a decision fairly quickly I'd imagine. I didn't see a need to link all the examples as they are all found in this thread alone.



Repeated violation of the board rules may result in temporary or permanent bans.

Just to drive my point home I decided it necessary to quote Mr.DiCenso himself to point out his hypocrisy.
What Khas said. I went pretty easy on KSW when he came back under his latest sockpuppet account because he seemed to be doing all right, and as you said, he admitted he had nothing but baseless speculation. It's when KSW started becoming abusive again as well as ignore other people's evidence, that couldn't be allowed to stand.
-Mike
I agree with that instance. Now I have provided evidence and this tyranny should not be allowed to stand.
Except that Mr. Oragahn is not trolling. He actually built a detailed case against SWST, which is exactly what people needed to do in the first place. You could learn something from that kind of patience and perseverance, Mojo.
-Mike
I was patient and I persevered. I have built my detailed case as requested of someone else by Mr.DiCenso here.
The board rules here are clear and concise about throwing insults at people, especially at someone who isn't viewing such attention at them as amusing.
I do not see Mr.DiCenso's accusations or insults as amusing. The board rules are clear and concise. Lets see what is done about them.

These are all from THIS THREAD ALONE. I don't have time to go through them all. How has this gone on for so long??? It seems maniacal to me that anyone would allow it. These are multiple violations of rules posted very clearly on the board and no one has been able to call Mr.DiCenso on them or make their claims stick because of his authority. This is for lack of a less dramatic word tyrannical.

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Mike DiCenso » Wed May 30, 2012 3:59 am

TheRainKing777 wrote:These rules are from the board rules thread found here: http://starfleetjedi.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2
All quotes are from Mr.DiCenso.
In truth, this board has one rule:

All discourse is to be reasonable, polite, and informative.

To this end, the following simple specific rules should be kept in mind and followed at all times:
This is all well and true as a rule.

1. No flaming. Insults, attacks, and rudeness all serve as obstacles to discourse; they will not be tolerated.
The impression I get is that your brother is a very sore loser and he drew you and Airlocke into this as means to create a way to get back at me.
-Mike
You then childishly attacked me on a personal level rather than do the mature thing.
I did my job. Many times, and unfortunately Mojo got stupid and made his business mine, which in turn made me direct attention away from SWST. It's that simple.
-Mike

Yes, I got harsh. But telling people they did something wrong and making the point are quite necessary here. The first one is clearly speculation, but given the facts at hand, how can you blame me for making it? How would you describe how Mojo acted? Intelligent? Reasoned? Well-mannered? No. Saying someone acted stupid or foolish is not the same thing as trolling or outright insulting them. But I do apologize for being harsh, as I am being trolled here by you, RainKing. However let's look at some the facts shall we?

First off:

A.)
RainKing, please stay on topic. This is not Star Trek versus Back to the Future, this a three-way match up between major Star Trek capital ships. If you want a Vs match between Trek and BttF, make topic in the appropriate forum.

Thank you.
-Mike
This is my polite and reasonable request for RainKing. Nothing is done here to provoke or harass him, just simply ask him to move the off topic posting to the appropriate forum, if that is what he wants to do.

B.) RainKing's response:
I'm sorry! I thought this was America!


I did not respond to this thinking he was just making a joke and he got the point, but soon followed:

In a thread created by RainKing specifically to troll (see here
RainKing, please stay on topic. This is not Star Trek versus Back to the Future, this a three-way match up between major Star Trek capital ships. If I want a Vs match between Trek and BttF, make topic in the appropriate forum.

Thank you.
-Mike
Please compare how RainKing alters my polite and straightforward request to suit his purpose. Altering someone's post is a form of blatant dishonesty and are grounds for a warning and even a banning as you are effective altering the context of what was said with an intention to troll and insult that person.
D.The fact that some of you guys decided to be total nerf heads over this only made things far worse than it ever had to be.
-Mike
See my response on this below.
E.You and especially Mojo went and did some outageously stupid things, even when I and to a lesser extent Praeo were managing to get numerous warnings and eventually bans to stick on SWST.
No sign of outright insulting, just pointing out someone was being foolish, abeit in a harsher manner than may have been necessary. But calling someone's behavior foolish and stupid is not the same thing. There's even a discussion about this on SFJN.
Exactly, which is what I was able to finally use to make the bans stick with JMS. Being willfully ignorant is not a defense under the law.
-Mike
This is correct. You and your brother are not exempt, even though I've tried to be nice and let some behavior slide.
I don't have the power to do that as a mod. Not that I'd remove SWST's postings anyway, since even if we quotes them here in this thread or kept them in PM posts, it's important to see them in their proper context so it can't be claimed we're just being soreheads about the whole thing.
-Mike
Here I'm willing to keep the posts visible and in place to the public from people I may not like. This seems to be proof of fairness and less of a tyranny since to do so otherwise would be censorship and dishonesty.
Uh huh. Yeah, this is getting really bizarre now. Whether it's Mojo or his son, or his pet dog. Mojo ultimately is responsible for the behavior of all members of their household. No one in the SocksockJedi account I recently banned, made any attempt to separate or identify themselves as anyone other than Mojo.

This is true. Please provide proof otherwise. If you are all posting from the same location and without proof to the contrary, how can you claim to be someone else? By the way, that was from a post made by me in regards to banning not only Mojo, but all his known sockpuppets to prevent further mischief by subverting a ban. Again, no proof of seperate identity, thus they must be treated as the same until provided otherwise. If anything, this shows I am tough, but fair when dealing with a possible offender. Can you say in all honest that you would have done otherwise as a reasonable precaution?
And that is why you fail.
-Mike
An out of context quip.
So instead of doing the equivalent of setting up video cameras and getting eye witnesses to coroborate your accustation, you throw a tantrum and go out to commit vandalism and assault, which in turn gets you arrested locked up, and distracts the police (mods) from further pursuing the investigation against the person you accused.
An appropriate analogy to the situation. Why are you even bringing this up?
So, would you like to put your foot in your proverbial mouth again?
-Mike
Context?
Breetai, but I really must agree that you refrain from such behavior since it only makes you look like a hypocrite,
Context?
Who acts against the mods? In this thread alone you have Mr.DiCenso making accusations that are completely unfounded while lacking any evidence toward them whatsoever.
But to answer your question here, we had a two mod system to provide some form of balance and above that was the admin. But the admin quit and before that our first mod. For a while I was the only mod and in circumstances where I might be compromised by bias, or might be seen as biased, I did the best I could by myself. Now we have two mods and technically no admin, but we have the other mod to go to.

Unfounded? There as been a ton of evidence provided to back up the admittedly speculative accusations leveled.

1.) You came here and were accepted with good faith. No one knew Mojo was involved with anything.

2.) I simply asked that you refrain from getting off-topic in a particular thread.

3.) You responded with a snarky reply about this being "America".

4.) You created a very off-topic and deliberately trolling thread directed at me and even in the first post had an altered quote from me.

5.) Attempts to reason with you ended in failure. You then
II. What Mr.DiCenso thinks was said, "Hey, we should go to this board together with Airlocke and just be complete jack-asses. THEN we should rebel against anyone who goes against us. MUAHAHAHAAHA!" Who acts this way? Seriously...

Wouldn't this be reasonable given how you first behaved when you came here? See my first evidence provided and the accompanying link. You haven't really addressed this other than to claim it was all just having some fun. Apparently that fun was at others' expense and given how close yours and your brother's behavior seemed, isn't that a reasonable assumption?
But your brother it looks like couldn't let it go.
I. Isn't this line alone clear in Mr.DiCenso's vendetta? If not continue to more examples here:

RainKing claims a vendetta without prior proof or other evidence. This in and of itself would proof of his own dishonest and further proof he is here specifically to troll me as part of a possible vendetta to avenge his brother whom he feels is wronged by Trinoya and I.
The impression I get is that your brother is a very sore loser and he drew you and Airlocke into this as means to create a way to get back at me.
-Mike
Yes and? Speculation on my part, but one that must be entertained given the facts at hand. See my link provided above. There is this link to Trinoya's investigation.
Mojo could have prevented all of this a year ago by staying out of the way and doing as Mr. Oragahn and others on this board did by helping document SWST's behavior.
You call me a bully, your brother goes off attacking anyone they perceive as an authority figure who does not do what they like, which is let them get away with whatever they want to do.
This is true. As I have provided proof of, you go off and attack people.

It's there for all to see and on top of that, neither you or your brother have found all that much sympathy on the board as a whole because of that.


Also true. No one has really come to your defense except yourselves for each other. See my links provided, most particular to Trinoya's ruling. Also I would remind you of this in the very thread you made to go after me:
Wow, could you be less funny?

Wait, don't answer, I already know the answer...
That from Praeomithin. One of at least two such telling you how unamusing your behavior was.
No such thing. Give it a rest, Mojo. I would also point out that demanding a concession from someone is a violation of the rules JMS set forth, and that is precisely what you are doing here.
-Mike
I. Didn't Mr.DiCenso just demand a concession from me here:
The best thing is let this go and go have a cold one IRL. It's not worth it.
-Mike
Hasn't RainKing been dishonest? I have shown evidence in spades of that? Asking someone to cool it for a while or give things a rest is not demanding a concession since you would have to be agreeing with me to do so. By the way, hitting all the report buttons and not filing any description of the offense as much as you have with nearly every single post that Trinoya and I have in this thread is major abuse of the system, and proof of what I said about you two throwing tantrums and trolling the board.

I believe Trinoya already gave you a warning for this, yes?
For that matter it almost seems like a threat. Why isn't it worth it to seek out judgement on anyone? If they have nothing to fear of truth than why should it seem threatening?
And the insanity continues on, Mojo.
Normally I'd have had Praeo and JMS handle this, as I admittedly am too close to what's going on.
I. I seriously wish Mr.DiCenso had kept this mentality. Here he publicly admits that he is too close to the situation with Mojo to rationally and objectively handle the situation himself. Yet he continues to do so uninhibited.
and between everything that's been going on, my patience is at it's end.
-Mike
I. Here we have Mike again saying that not only is he not able to handle it objectively but that he doesn't have the patience to handle the situation rationally either. So why did he?
Because unlike some folks, I admit I'm human and in my capacity as a moderator, it is only proper that when the attacks are leveled at me, that I stand aside and let the other moderator look over the situation as was the case when Trinoya gave his ruling on my behalf against Mojo's prior accusations (of a remarkably similar manner as yours). If anything, you've shown I'm fair and honest since I stood by not once, but several times and let others make a decision and investigate.
following are very good pieces of advice:
1. Personal information is irrelevant - yours or someone else's.

A. I never told anyone I was Mojo's brother. Mojo said that and I don't blame him for that. I do however blame Mr.DiCenso for not asking me if I was okay with that before he continued to repeat it. That is an invasion of my privacy that he has no rights to. As is mentioned here, it is irrelevant. I think it's interesting that Mr.DiCenso forces Mojo to repeat personal things about himself publicly just so he can avoid being banned. Has he done this to anyone else? [/quote]

When there is suspicion of someone attempting to subvert the system, such as using a sockpuppet, it is often necessary to look up something like an IP address. These are the facts of internet life. Praeothmin can tell you about it is since he himself had to do so on more than one occasion when dealing with KSW sockpuppets. It's unfortunate it had to come down to it, but your brother has a past history here and your behavior almost exactly met his M.O..
2. Take a deep breath, think, and read carefully before replying.
A. Mr.DiCenso takes all of this very personally. Yes, he hides it fairly well but look at the last few pages of this thread alone and notice how nervous and upset he gets over the small issue of the truth about him being revealed. Accusations, insults, sarcasm, etc. Yes a normal member of the board might be doing things but he is a mod. This is not conduct befitting of an officer.
This could be said of you as well as a member of this board. Look again at the wealth of evidence I provided in this post.
As for addressing your accusations, I've long done that before. I've explained all I need and my wasting time continually repeating verbatim what's already been said, and repeating Trinoya's findings is also a waste. It's there for all to see and on top of that, neither you or your brother have found all that much sympathy on the board as a whole because of that.
I. There is another lesson to be learned from Mr.DiCenso's mistakes. Again this is a rule that was posted clearly and he admits to repeating himself. The problem here is that he's not answering the questions, he's just saying that he did and that he has to repeat himself in a way to dodge having to answer anything. A lot of leaders will do this when they realized they've painted themselves into a corner.

As I've shown proof of, I've answered your accusations and more, and I've shown (once again) evidence overwhelming of your behavior, which while you coat it in sugar, it is clear you are likely here to troll.
Just to drive my point home I decided it necessary to quote Mr.DiCenso himself to point out his hypocrisy.
What Khas said. I went pretty easy on KSW when he came back under his latest sockpuppet account because he seemed to be doing all right, and as you said, he admitted he had nothing but baseless speculation. It's when KSW started becoming abusive again as well as ignore other people's evidence, that couldn't be allowed to stand.
-Mike
I agree with that instance. Now I have provided evidence and this tyranny should not be allowed to stand.
No tyranny as I have shown in abundance. In fact, many of the examples you post here show almost the opposite. A reluctance to bring a heavy hand down on people and to be as fair as possible in all circumstances, which is why, ironically enough, your brother attacked me and continued a pointless vendetta against me which has now resulted in the current state of affairs.
Except that Mr. Oragahn is not trolling. He actually built a detailed case against SWST, which is exactly what people needed to do in the first place. You could learn something from that kind of patience and perseverance, Mojo.
-Mike
I was patient and I persevered. I have built my detailed case as requested of someone else by Mr.DiCenso here.

The board rules here are clear and concise about throwing insults at people, especially at someone who isn't viewing such attention at them as amusing.
[quote="RainKing777]I do not see Mr.DiCenso's accusations or insults as amusing. The board rules are clear and concise. Lets see what is done about them.

These are all from THIS THREAD ALONE. I don't have time to go through them all. How has this gone on for so long??? It seems maniacal to me that anyone would allow it. These are multiple violations of rules posted very clearly on the board and no one has been able to call Mr.DiCenso on them or make their claims stick because of his authority. This is for lack of a less dramatic word tyrannical.[/quote]

I have provided clear and concise evidence that RainKing is here solely for the purpose of trolling me, provoking me to anger, perhaps with the goal of getting back at me for serving disciplines on his brother. I have not found his little thread amusing nor was his overreaction to my polite request (evidence provided above) RainKing may even be doing all this at the behest of Mojo. I don't know. But I do know that RainKing has come here and committed several acts that are against the board rules and directed against the mod staff. A large number of frivolous reports have been filed against Trinoya, which unfortunately members cannot see, but can be confirmed, if needed by JMS.
-Mike

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by TheRainKing777 » Wed May 30, 2012 4:06 am

Mr.DiCenso,

The problem here lies in the fact that not only will you not take responsibility for your actions, but you want to punish three select people for your vendetta against one. That is your biggest problem here. I have provided direct evidence against you several times in my post. Several times you directly refute my obviously true posts with bs that you make up on the fly with no evidence of your own. C'mon, Mr.DiCenso. When is it going to stop? I didn't have a problem with any of it until you all but called me back in here by continuing to refer to me as a sockpuppet which has been denounced how many times now?

All you have to do is allow others to view the evidence and decide for themselves. Instead you insist on defending an absolutely ridiculous position. I had no problem with you until I took in all the evidence. If my sole purpose was to discredit you (which now it actually is because of your actions), then I would do nothing else.

Furthermore, as you can see in his direct rebuttal of everything I've said, this is an exhaustive attempt to defend himself. He twists his own words out of context (mine and Mojo's as well) to make himself seem the fair and devoted mod when in fact the opposite is shown clearly in my evidence. As he himself has explained he is an unchecked mod with an associate who has not cleared himself from sock-puppet status either. Instead he remains silent but I'm sure he will come to his boss's rescue soon enough. Spock has been somewhat active so I'm hoping he will have a look at this objectively and make a decision. So in response no, I am not willing to be silent and watch people be abused by a rogue (trolling) mod and his antics. I don't deserve it for one, seeing as how I've had one warning and basically been told I am not welcome by him, unamusing, unintelligent, foolish, stupid, etc. The list goes on and I've been here for what? A week. He brings up issues and makes claims with no evidence other than taking things out of context. Will no one else take issue with this? It seems like Mojo and I are the only ones that pay attention to whats going on around here.

My evidence is sound, Mr.DiCenso. Let your supervisor and your peers decide. This has nothing to do with Mojo. This is you, your peers, your supervisor and I.


Always Keeping You Informed,

TheRainKing777
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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Mike DiCenso » Wed May 30, 2012 4:17 am

I remind you that you have shown no remorse in your trolling in the Trek/Wars thread. A thread I linked to as well as the quotes given are evidence enough.
-Mike

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by TheRainKing777 » Wed May 30, 2012 4:22 am

Mr.DiCenso,

Again you provide a rebuttal without evidence. This hole you are digging continues to get deeper. How far will you go? Just be patient and let the people decide. This is their board more than it is yours, isn't it? Stop trying to shut me up so you can spread your rubbish.

Sure, some others may not behave according to mod standards but we are not mods. As a mod you are required to stand at a higher standard than the rest of us. We didn't choose to take that mantle, you did. If you're not going to live up to the behavior that you're supposed to, than you should step aside and let your peers and your supervisor decide your fate. What are you so afraid of?

Always Keeping You Informed,

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by TheRainKing777 » Wed May 30, 2012 4:27 am

Mike DiCenso wrote:I remind you that you have shown no remorse in your trolling in the Trek/Wars thread. A thread I linked to as well as the quotes given are evidence enough.
-Mike
Mr.DiCenso,

The issue here Mr.DiCenso is that I am not on trial here. You are. You fail to comprehend this and instead of accepting it and taking a hard look at your actions and letting your peers and supervisor decide matters you continue to try and drag me through the mud which just shows further how intent you are in shutting me up and sitting longer on your self-provided throne. I do believe I've brought the subject of tyranny up before, haven't I?

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Post by Trinoya » Wed May 30, 2012 4:41 am

TRK777 has been given a warning and subsequent ban for his abuse of the report system, at over 121 violations.

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Post by User7110 » Wed May 30, 2012 5:14 am

Mr.DiCenso,

Ah I see. So justice will not be had after all. Wondrous. Precisely as I predicted as you can see. This ban is terrible. This THeRainKing777 fellow has been wrongly convicted. Clearly. As any member of this board can now see, the mod Mike DiCenso is actually both mods and they have decided tyranny will stand. Good luck to the board. See you in a few months when I return to make my case again.

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Trinoya » Wed May 30, 2012 5:16 am

After further review of this thread Mike is being given a warning for insults against Mojo.


Mojo I'm giving an unofficial warning to you since you were getting hot headed as well. Take a day off, cool down.


Addendum: Ninja'd by the sockpuppet account. It has also been banned, but I have allowed the post to be available as sort of a closing statement.

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Fair enough, Trin.
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Post by Mr. Oragahn » Wed May 30, 2012 12:22 pm

Nearly two pages in half a day???? Geez.

Am I the only one finding it dramatic that this exceptionally active topic is only remotely related to the main purpose of this website?
Mike DiCenso wrote: So now as Ty remarked in the Brian Young thread, instead of shutting ASVS down, he's going to tighten up the rules and go for a somewhat more serious approach, which in turn was pointed out to him is also self-defeating since what would be the difference between ASVS and SFJN other than the name and the format graphics?
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Precisely. The only thing that warrants the current ASVS to be kept up is Young's spot.
Which is not particularly intellectually or playfully stimulating considering the almost non existence change of his silly denial-driven positions.
Tyralak tried, but the problem was that there wasn't any strong community.
The other problem is that people DO want a certain level of seriousness, for the simple reason that the vs debates obey to some aspects of GAMING, and you always want an environment where you think you'll be able to play within the canvas of fair rules and equity. A free for all fest where insults can fly as much as dishonesty, doubled with the lack of a local slum and vilainy, that doesn't sell neo-ASVS very well.


TheRainKing777 wrote:Look Mike,

I was going to stay out of this because I really wanted to be done with you and with this board but you are going to insane levels to implicate someone who clearly stated his position multiple times, has at NO TIME made any effort to deceive anyone here and has even been putting other people's personal information on this board to reiterate his case that he, Airlocke and I are not the same person. Your focus on him is borderline harassment and I'm pretty sure that violates like 4 board rules. I've taken the time to meticulously go through and report you for every violation I've seen of this tyranny of yours and I seriously hope that there's someone above you and Trinoya who can look at this objectively and see whats going on here.

Mojo is trying to hold onto his innocence in this case and you seem to be denying him even that which seems to me to be a clear passion in the chance that he'll be ejected from the site completely with some sort of permanent ban. As I don't really care whether I'm banned or not all I want to see come out of this is some sort of finality in this instance. This feud, this hatred you have of him is clearly stated throughout the years and if there is some objective personality that views the reports I've made against you than they'll understand that. I don't think that you can view Mojo objectively anymore and I would go as far as to say that Trinoya can't either seeing as how you two clearly have some other relationship if you're not the same person which to me seems entirely likely. Everything you say is guised in the idea that you are some mechanical, completely objective personality when anyone who looks at your actions on this thread alone will be able to tell that once someone crosses a line once in your mind you never allow them any recompense. Instead you do everything you can to drive them out as you have pretty much done with me. Well, Mojo doesn't seem like he's willing to give up as easily as I had.

Although I don't think he's come out and said it, I think you should be demoted. Your judgement is clearly lacking throughout even this thread alone. I will be talking to any superior to you that I can find to make this case and if they deny it than so be it. I will make phone calls if I must to prove that Mojo and I are separate people.

This has gotten way out of hand.
You've written a lot for someone who's been barely there and got largely noticed for your not so imppressive posts.
The moderation of SWST was bad for all sorts of reasons, largely due to the rules which never were tried that hard and we all paid the lack of experience. Yes, we could agree with Mojo, if proved right, on the idea that a couple disruptive posts over a certain extended time couldn't really be considered that encumbering regarding the moderating of SWST, and certainly not to the point of rendering the moderation of SWST impossible. I did find Mojo's ban excessive even if his snapping wasn't useful at all.
But I don't see proper "harassment", as you put it. That's completely over the top.
Your incessant provocations and fueling of an affair that's only asking for slumber is tiring. That and your "errors" in some of your claims, like this one:

"This feud, this hatred you have of him is clearly stated throughout the years"

They serve no purpose excepted really stir trouble. There's barely been one full year if you do the averages, even less in some cases.
I understand you've been banned for a long time now, and I hope you'll use that time to muse about your short lived activity here and realize that it just didn't work.
You spent most of your time here posting nonsense, plus padding this thread. Doesn't that even tire you in some way?
Instead of making post after post, why didn't you bring some evidence, links, post dates, etc.?
Too much noise, little substance.

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