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Canon status of Clone Wars movie?
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:08 pm
by ILikeDeathNote
Pretty self-explanatory, though a bit confusing since I was under the impression that all "movies" were highest-level canon, though the new Clone Wars movie seems to be a potentially ambiguous case.
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:15 pm
by l33telboi
T-canon. Meaning above C-canon but below G-canon. That goes for the entire series, not just the movie.
Lately Chee has been saying it's not part of the EU but part of the Movie 'tree' when it comes to canon though, so it might get classed as G-canon before long.
All this and more can be found on the wookipedia article on canon. It has all the relevant links to where this has been said too.
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:49 pm
by Mr. Oragahn
T level? I didn't know there was such a thing.
For all I know, Lucas' heavily involved in it. That makes it quite close to G, if not almost entirely G canon.
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:10 pm
by l33telboi
Mr. Oragahn wrote:T level? I didn't know there was such a thing.
It was added specifically for the Clone Wars series. T as in TV canon.
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:01 pm
by ILikeDeathNote
Mr. Oragahn wrote:T level? I didn't know there was such a thing.
This (and Lucas' general ****ing around with what constitutes "canon" status) is one of the reasons why in general I gave up trying to come up with a proper personal canon policy and why I've largely left the vs. debate. It's almost as if coming up with a new canon tier is Lucas' way of saying "Eff You!" to the vs. community.
I'm halfway tempted to even ask why even bother with a canon policy.
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:02 pm
by Mr. Oragahn
l33telboi wrote:Mr. Oragahn wrote:T level? I didn't know there was such a thing.
It was added specifically for the Clone Wars series. T as in TV canon.
By Chee? Did Lucas have anything to do with that (unlikely imo)?
Shouldn't we have, then, a B canon, for books, or say N, for novelizations.
If it's TV canon, the Ewok movies fall in that T level.
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:19 pm
by l33telboi
Mr. Oragahn wrote:By Chee?
Yes. As far as I know Lucas has pretty much nothing to do with Lucas Licencing. The G, T, C, S ladder system is something they created, not he.
Shouldn't we have, then, a B canon, for books, or say N, for novelizations.
Hey, I don't make the rules.
If it's TV canon, the Ewok movies fall in that T level.
As amusing as that would be, no, T is for the live action series and the new cartoon.
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:54 pm
by Mr. Oragahn
Eh? The Ewok movies are explicitely TV films. They couldn't be anything else but T. They have been considered lower G canon for quite some time. T is the perfect slot for that.
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:18 am
by Flectarn
Wait, I thought T canon was for the old Clone Wars show...
and the new ones were going to be G.
This is all far to convoluted
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:18 am
by l33telboi
Flectarn wrote:This is all far to convoluted
>:(
It's really quite simple:
Wookiepedia wrote:T-canon[1], or Television Canon[2], refers to the canon level comprising the feature film Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the two television shows Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the Star Wars live-action TV series.[3][4] Its precedence over C-Level canon was confirmed by Chee[5].
Link so you can check out the sources.
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:18 pm
by Ted C
George Lucas has a writer's credit for the story, so I can only conclude that The Clone Wars is G-level canon.
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:39 pm
by Mr. Oragahn
Wookiepedia wrote:T-canon[1], or Television Canon[2], refers to the canon level comprising the feature film Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the two television shows Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the Star Wars live-action TV series.[3][4] Its precedence over C-Level canon was confirmed by Chee[5].
But notice, l33t, that this bit doesn't explicitely exclude the Ewok movies from an element they rightfully belong to.
They've been made by Lucas, I think even written and filmed by him, and were TV movies.
I'd bet my hat that if one would ask this to Sansweet for example (wink wink) his reply would agree with me.
If not, then I better buy loads of sauce cause I'm going to need *some* to swallow that hat.
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:20 pm
by Mike DiCenso
Just taking a break from ComicCon here in Sand Diego to chime in. This is a good question, and I'll make a go at asking Sansweet if TV episodes written by Lucas constitute G-level canon.
-Mike
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:26 pm
by Mr. Oragahn
Mike DiCenso wrote:Just taking a break from ComicCon here in Sand Diego to chime in. This is a good question, and I'll make a go at asking Sansweet if TV episodes written by Lucas constitute G-level canon.
-Mike
Think about the TV Ewoks as well.
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:56 am
by Mr. Oragahn
'sides, try to eye that Tr2n teaser, at Disney's booth.